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  • Sealing edges on dibond panels

    Posted by Danny Miller on 11 May 2017 at 21:45

    Hi guys having some problems with the vinyl looking like it will lift off the edges on the last few signs i have done. printed and laminated on md5 , then mounted on to dibond panels. I think the issue is the batch of dibond sheets i have purchased, as the edges look like they have been cut with a blunt blade. I have rubbed them down but the vinyl is not sticking great.

    My main question is would one of these edge sealing pens work to stop the lifting ?

    Thanks

    David Mitchell replied 8 years, 7 months ago 7 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    11 May 2017 at 22:06

    Do you have a picture?

    I would have thought the dibond has been guillotined, or have you had them ripped down to specific sizes?

    could it be you have not cleaned the panel properly?
    or perhaps
    tension in your laminate thats been applied?
    not left long enough for outgassing?

    hard to tell doing it blind and without knowing full details.

  • Danny Miller

    Member
    11 May 2017 at 22:22

    Hi I didn’t take any photos.

    Yes some of the panels were ordered in custom sizes so I’d imagine they used in house cutters

    Left to outgas for over 24 hours.

    Tension was a little heavy to keep the boards in place, as the laminator is between two benches.

    Everything cleaned well.

    The md5 was air release , could that be a issue ?

    Has anyone tried a edge sealer ?

    Thanks

  • Simon Worrall

    Member
    12 May 2017 at 07:41

    If the print is heavy all the way out to the edge, you will have to leave it much longer than 24 hours to outgas before laminating. This is usually the cause of this problem.
    Edge sealer might save your job if there is something to adhere to, the black polypropylene core of the dibond panels is not very stickable. Perhaps if you plane the front edge at 45 degrees with a hand plane to expose a bit of aluminium you would get a better result with that.

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    12 May 2017 at 08:18

    I usually find if I’m flood coating a panel (even if it’s just a coloured vinyl and not a laminated print) the vinyl tends to lift at the sides. I solve it by trimming away the vinyl from the very edge leaving a very small margin space (1mm or 2mm) around the perimeter

  • Danny Miller

    Member
    12 May 2017 at 08:41

    The print had very little ink coverage, so I thought 24 hours out gassing would be fine.

    Cheers Phil , that was something I had in mind but good to know others use that method.

    I was thinking cutting or sealing , but I think your right Simon the black part could be a problem when sealing

    Thanks for your replies

  • Jean Oakley

    Member
    12 May 2017 at 16:18

    I usually find if I’m flood coating a panel (even if it’s just a coloured vinyl and not a laminated print) the vinyl tends to lift at the sides. I solve it by trimming away the vinyl from the very edge leaving a very small margin space (1mm or 2mm) around the perimeter

    Thats exactly what ive always done :bigsmile:

  • David Rogers

    Member
    12 May 2017 at 18:55

    We’ve been edge wrapping for the last couple of years to solve this issue and dare i say it, give a more premium finish on composite panels. An extra 15-20mm all round and wrapped round the sides and stuck to the back.
    Ideal for flood coats as it negates the issue of edges lifting or shrinking back due to a tensioned application.

  • David Mitchell

    Member
    12 May 2017 at 20:44

    Wrap it round the back and some 10mm strips of vinyl to hold in place,

    or trim it 2mm shy of the edge if u don’t think a wee white edge will get you in trouble

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