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  • Screen Flood Coating 3M IJ380 or IJ180

    Posted by David Hammond on 15 January 2013 at 10:34

    I’ve a customer who’s paid for their logo/website/workwear all to be designed and produced, by a design studio.

    Now it’s come to doing their vehicles… they need a colour change wrap, then their logo etc applying.

    I’ve a pantone reference but can’t find a suitable 3m or Avery air release wrap film that’s near their reference.

    I am now considering getting 25m of IJ380 or IJ180 flood coated by a screen printer to the pantone colour? Probably be quicker, cheaper and easier than me running it through my machine.

    Has anybody done anything like this? Is it possible? Anything I should know or tell the screen printer before steaming ahead?

    David Hammond replied 12 years, 9 months ago 5 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Simon Worrall

    Member
    15 January 2013 at 10:49

    Screen printing lays the ink down quite thickly. It may affect the conforming properties of the vinyl…best to do a test first.

    Simon.

  • Adrian Hewson

    Member
    15 January 2013 at 11:00

    Hi Dave phone Gill Harrison she is on the boards works at Willliam Smith.

    I am 99.9% certain you cannot screen print that vinyl, they are the two wrapping vinyls we use and you need to laminate them, they must be solvent printed ???

  • David Hammond

    Member
    15 January 2013 at 11:04

    I’ve spoken briefly with Gill.

    Screen printing the films is fine… however Gill has her own questions regarding what I am trying to do before giving me a green light.

    Just curious to whether anyone else has done this?

  • Gill Harrison

    Member
    15 January 2013 at 21:40
    quote David Hammond:

    I’ve spoken briefly with Gill.

    Screen printing the films is fine… however Gill has her own questions regarding what I am trying to do before giving me a green light.

    Just curious to whether anyone else has done this?

    I got my questions re laminating answered……….."Yes they can flood coat (solvent inks advisable not UV) yes you need to laminate or varnish (ij380 must be laminated with 8580) ij180 could be varnished but should be a exterior solvent based varnish

    Laminating sheets is much trickier than in roll format but can be done. They also have to be careful with sheet to sheet colour matching as you can still get colour shift with screen print"

    Hope this helps

    Gill :lol1:

  • Adrian Hewson

    Member
    15 January 2013 at 21:44

    Gill can you clarify it says you can flood coat but says you must laminate solvent preferred but UV ok but Dave is talking about screen printing, how can that stretch with the vinyl ???

  • Gill Harrison

    Member
    15 January 2013 at 21:54
    quote Adrian Hewson:

    Gill can you clarify it says you can flood coat but says you must laminate solvent preferred but UV ok but Dave is talking about screen printing, how can that stretch with the vinyl ???

    Hi Adrian

    Solvent inks advisable NOT UV inks, as you quite rightly said UV won’t stretch.

    Gill

  • David Hammond

    Member
    16 January 2013 at 10:24

    Many thanks Gill,

    Got your message last night, but was getting an early night, for a meeting I had this AM.

    I am awaiting a price back from the screen printers I use, then I can get the quote in to my customer.

    Thanks for your help.

  • Glenn Sharp

    Member
    16 January 2013 at 10:51

    It might be worth getting a price from a digital trade print specialist aswell David.

    flood coating vinyl by screen printing is problematic at the best of times…..dust, squeegee marks, consistency of colour etc etc

    I’m not saying it can’t be done but at todays digital trade prices (including lamination) you might get a better deal

  • David Hammond

    Member
    16 January 2013 at 10:52

    I could do it myself really, have the printer here… just thought it would be cheaper/easier for a screen printer to flood a 25m roll?

  • Glenn Sharp

    Member
    16 January 2013 at 11:42

    Is that even possible David?

    Have you found someone who can do it?

  • David Hammond

    Member
    16 January 2013 at 11:49

    I don’t know Glenn,

    Speaking with a local screen printer.

    Otherwise I will be printing it on my RS…

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