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  • Roland CX-24 maximum material thickness?

    Posted by Barbara Eden on 16 February 2009 at 12:55

    Hi, can anyone give me any ideas please? I want to make my own airbrush stencils with my plotter, but the product I’d like to use is similar to Mylar, and 5 mil thick.

    The supplier doubts the Roland will do it (but of course he sells plotters that will at double the price 🙂 !)

    Interestingly, on an airbrush forum, someone happily cut it with a P-60 😥

    Any help greatly appreciated 🙂 🙂

    Barbara

    Chris Wool replied 16 years, 7 months ago 5 Members · 14 Replies
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  • Steve Morgan

    Member
    16 February 2009 at 13:23

    Do you mean the thickness is 5 milimetres?

  • Barbara Eden

    Member
    16 February 2009 at 13:40

    Yes Steve, I do 🙂 Sorry, must be having a ‘mature moment’-but then, it is Monday!!

    Thanks, Barbara

  • Steve Morgan

    Member
    16 February 2009 at 13:52

    I can’t imagine a plotter that is capable of cutting material that is nearly 1/4 of an inch thick. It must be rather difficult to use as a mask.

  • David Rogers

    Member
    16 February 2009 at 13:54

    Mylar type material at 5mm thick. (A little under 1/4 inch!) seems odd – especially if using it for airbrush stencils.

    Only ever seen it at around 5 MICRONS.

    Did a bit of checking and 125micron mylar type films are commonly used for stenciling. (As they stand up to being sprayed with adhesive).

    And just a thought – both mylar & polyester films can’t be stretched so for 2D surfaces only…no 3D curves or they just wrinkle.

    I have used HIPS in the past for some stenciling projects (water based paint) – was around 0.25mm – pressure right up & double pass. Enough to tear the waste out along the deep score lines.

    Dave

  • Barbara Eden

    Member
    16 February 2009 at 14:04

    Thanks for your input Steve, but there are stencils much thicker than this cut with plotters 🙂

    Unfortunately, the usual vinyl products sold for masking are too ‘flimsy’ for the airbrush- and get blown out of place, especially on textiles.

    As I said in my original post, there are plotters that do it – from both ends of the price scale, but I don’t want to ruin my Roland if it can’t be done with it.

    At the same time, I don’t fancy messing about with a cheap import 😥
    Seems it has a lot to do with the force available.

    Barbara

  • Steve Morgan

    Member
    16 February 2009 at 14:29

    If it’s as thick as 5mm then I think your best course would be to find a signmaker with a laser cutter. That will certainly cut the material, as Dave said I didn’t think mylar came as thick as that. Have you tried sand blast rubber?

  • Barbara Eden

    Member
    16 February 2009 at 15:04

    Thanks for your input once again 🙂
    Dave, I should perhaps point out that this is on an adhesive backing- I know the ones that you mean- usually sold in sheets?

    I must admit to being a little confused as regards thickness (not just mine 😳 ) as on returning to their website it is described as 5 or 7 mil- which I took to be mm?

    However, just to confuse things further, I have a second choice material which is described as being 0.003"- which I guess is only slightly better!

    Barbara

  • David Rogers

    Member
    16 February 2009 at 15:17

    Yeh, 3 thou’…about 100microns.

    A micron is a millionth of a metre.

    So 1000 in a mm…or 254,000 in an inch.

    Mil is an imperial measurement – 1000 to the inch.

    Don’t confuse your Mil and Millimetres.

    5 Mil…5 thou’…0.0127mm

    Dave

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    16 February 2009 at 15:20

    do the Americans call thousands of a inch mils

    if a pc 60 cuts it fine you will not have any problems.

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    16 February 2009 at 15:22

    must type quicker

  • Ian Muir

    Member
    16 February 2009 at 15:25

    Hi Barbara

    I have seen this a lot on websites, getting their units completely wrong that is.

    The thickest stencils you will probably meet are 500 micron or 1/2 mm..

    For airbrushing you do not need thick stencils, just a glue that adheres to the material you are painting (sometimes no glue at all).

    I regularly grit blast using a 300 micron stencil which needs to be thick when being attacked by abrasives at 100 psi for a few minutes. I cut this easy on a Camm 1 roland set to ‘heavy material’ speed (dip switch 8).

    Hope that helps

    Ian :lol1:

  • Barbara Eden

    Member
    16 February 2009 at 15:32

    So, according to your maths lesson Dave :thanks2: – I should be OK?

    Chris, apparently the P60 has a force up to 500g, whereas the Roland is only 200, hence my concern.

    Thank you very much for all your help – much appreciated

    Barbara

  • Barbara Eden

    Member
    16 February 2009 at 15:39

    Hi Ian
    Thank you, that’s a great help. I had looked at the plotter spec’s before posting, and knew about changing to ‘heavy’ – the ‘dip switch 8’ just lost me though? 😳 😳

    Barbara

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    16 February 2009 at 16:13

    i do have a pc60 and max cut is 200gf so as i said if the 60 will do it you will be fine

    chris

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