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  • Reverse cut delicate image installation ?

    Posted by davidgregory on 5 April 2011 at 08:18

    Hi everyone,
    Have been thinking all night ( and this morning ) about an installation tonight of a white reverse cut image onto a window that has some thin lines through it !
    Now, if I apply it wet will the fine lines not want to stick, if I apply it dry I fear all hell, its 3.5 metres tall ?
    I feel I must do it wet but maybe with just a fine spray, but should I put anything in the water, again if its too slippery it may not stick ?
    Someone suggested using window cleane as the alchohol will evaporate quickly ?

    I would really like some opinions if anyone can give some advice ?

    Many thanks, Dave.

    Ian Johnston replied 14 years, 6 months ago 7 Members · 12 Replies
  • 12 Replies
  • Peter Normington

    Member
    5 April 2011 at 08:37

    How wide is it?

    Peter

  • davidgregory

    Member
    5 April 2011 at 08:44

    Hi Peter,

    One piece is about 1200 wide at the top narrowing down, as its a tree the other is about 850mm, its an image of part of Westminster Abbey so has lots of lines for the windows etc !

    Any ideas ?

    Cheers, Dave.

  • David Rogers

    Member
    5 April 2011 at 09:16

    Absolutely NO water.

    fold over or tape the top edge of the graphics to the glass and ensure it will fit on the glass.

    If you’ve rubbed down the application tape just fine then work your way from the top down peeling off the liner as you go next to the glass. Absolute doddle to fit. Easier with two people (one to peel back & one to squeegee down) but have done many times on my own with no issues.

    Dave

  • Gert du Preez

    Member
    5 April 2011 at 09:19

    David,

    Do it dry. Even with bigger pieces a wet application is a pain on glass.

    If you HAVE to do it wet, squegee well, and spray some water on the application tape every 15 minutes for an hour or so, then carefully remove. And curse yourself for doing it wet 😀

  • davidgregory

    Member
    5 April 2011 at 09:22

    Hi Dave,

    I feel as if I should be brave and do it dry but think my knees will be knocking a bit !

    Do you not think that you dont get such a solid colour when it goes up dry ?

    Thanks, Dave.

  • davidgregory

    Member
    5 April 2011 at 09:29

    Hi Gert,

    You’re now really convincing me to the dry option !

    Should I just swipe the squeegee horizontally and not mix with vertical swipes ?

    My main form of installation is digital wallpaper so you can move it around much more but with the dry vinyl its one go at it really ?

    Thanks, Dave.

  • David Rogers

    Member
    5 April 2011 at 13:28
    quote davidgregory:

    Hi Dave…Do you not think that you dont get such a solid colour when it goes up dry ?

    Thanks, Dave.

    Only for about 2 days – then it’s just as good.

  • John Harding

    Member
    5 April 2011 at 14:09
    quote :

    Hi Gert,

    You’re now really convincing me to the dry option !

    Should I just swipe the squeegee horizontally and not mix with vertical swipes ?

    My main form of installation is digital wallpaper so you can move it around much more but with the dry vinyl its one go at it really ?

    Thanks, Dave.

    Just do overlapping strokes away from and parrallel to the hinge dont mix horizontal and vertical hope that makes sense – dry is the way to go on glass but worth a spare pair of hands on anything wider than 750mm in my opinion although not a necessity

  • davidgregory

    Member
    6 April 2011 at 10:54

    Thanks to everyone who gave me their opinion and advice, everyone of you contributed into making me think about certain things !
    I did the job last night, the first window with lots of delicate lines came out really well and as you all suggested I did it DRY, nightmare over….NO !
    The second window, which seemed much straight forward was a real pain, it was 3.5 high by 1350 wide and most of the height was a tree trunk, but….it went into a recess 100mm wide between the glass and a pillar and 300mm deep, my knuckles look like I’ve been in a fight, well their were a few ‘hicups’ but the client was very understanding and kind of expected it, its more me feeling I’ve not done a good job !
    Anyhow, thank you all again, I hope I can pass on some hints and tips with the digital wallpaper at some stage ?
    Cheers, Dave.

  • Jill Marie Welsh

    Member
    6 April 2011 at 12:25

    Good for you for stepping out of your comfort zone and trying something new.
    I started out doing wet ap only but over the past 5 years have learned to do dry ap.
    It still scares the crap out of me but sometimes it’s the best way forward.
    I was called this week to fit factory-supplied reflective on a large box truck, the company’s guys had tried to do it but jacked it up.
    I ended up @ss out on the roof of the truck fitting 3M with comply to the bulkhead.
    Of course I acted like I do that every day.
    Would like to see pix of your job!
    Love…..Jill

  • davidgregory

    Member
    27 April 2011 at 11:08

    Hi Jill,

    Thanks for your kind words, I tried posting some pics but they were too big !

    Not sure how to make them smaller as my IT expert is back at school ! 😳

  • Ian Johnston

    Member
    27 April 2011 at 12:05
    quote davidgregory:

    Hi Jill,

    Thanks for your kind words, I tried posting some pics but they were too big !

    Not sure how to make them smaller as my IT expert is back at school ! 😳

    quick way

    right click, > Edit

    This should open it in paint.

    Image> Stretch/Skew or (Ctrl + W)

    Change Sizes to 50% or less,

    re-save as new name

    POST

    😀

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