RECYCLING

[Andy Gorman]

I’m no expert but I’m guessing that there may be a problem due to the fact that vinyl is made up of at least 3 components: silicon release paper, adhesive and vinyl. I’ve never heard of a recycling service for vinyls.

On a similar topic, one thing I have done in the past is when I have a good tidy up I give all of the small offcuts of vinyl to the local infants school so they can cut them up into pictures of martians and…….whatever it is kids make pictures of.

[Nicola McIntosh]

hi dawn!!

good question!! one that folk and myself have not thought about!! recycling 😀

i cut my backing sheet roughly to A4 size then put it in the shredder!! great to keep for my packing, the vinyl i just put in the normal black bags and have them taken to the local tip!! i will ask the guy though about the vinyl, next time i’m there!! 😛

Nik

[J. Hulme]

quote John Roddick:

I struggle to move our Wheelie bin every week!

Dawn

Naughty, it’s business or trade waste!

[John & Dawn Roddick]

We do the same thing with offcuts – our daughter is at nursery and regularly takes bags of them with her and the inner tubes from rolls of vinyl (no Andrex rolls for this girl!) But there is a huge amount of weeded vinyl that just gets thrown away.

[J. Hulme]

quote big G:

I give all of the small offcuts of vinyl to the local infants school so they can cut them up into pictures of martians and…….whatever it is kids make pictures of.

Nice thought, but too many regulations with schools even if freebies, I wouldn’t be inclined to give anything due to the safety of the industry standard aggressive adhesives etc

I personally wouldn’t spend a hour or chewing on it but kids will, and I bet it isn’t vegetable based adhesive.
They’ll soon point the finger when things go wrong, free or not.

[Nicola McIntosh]

i thought dawn was talking about (weeded waste) not off cuts!! 😀

Nik

[Carrie Brown]

Always thinking about the same thing ourselves? We recycle at home & it gets collected every week ….. but as soon as you have stuff to recycle through business rarely no one wants to know, unless they can earn off it??? We do the same as Nik, pack it up & take it to the skip or use as packaging and we are as naughty as Dawn and even take a bag or two home sometimes!

Outline, no offense but you seem to view the negative side of most things? we give off cuts to the kids to use, they are supervised and at a certain age most rarely chew on things such as vinyl.

Carrie 😀

[Nicola McIntosh]

i second that too carrie!! 😮

(kids chew vynil) lets lock the teachers up!! 👿 👿

Nik

[J. Hulme]

quote Carrie:

Outline, no offense but you seem to view the negative side of most things? we give off cuts to the kids to use, they are supervised and at a certain age most rarely chew on things such as vinyl.

Carrie 😀

Sorry, indeed not, I look at it in a positive way
Aren’t those kids who fall off cliffs on school trips etc supposed to be supervised?
That much so that some teachers no longer will agree to participate in outdoor activities (i.e school trips) for fear of prosecution.

I’m just trying to cover your back, however I won’t waste your time if you’re not interested…

[Nigel Fraser]

I do the same with my scraps of vinyl off-cuts (give them to the local schools) and nobody raised any probs yet – the teachers think is a great idea and always want more !
But as for the weeding waste and backing/application paper it always really gets me too that it ends up being put in a hole in the ground and will probably still be there in 100yrs time when they dig it up for a new development or something. I wouldn’t call myself a very “green” person really but things like recycling seem so obvious to me. I would love to have a more environmentally sound method of disposing of the waste from our industry….

Nigel

[Nicola McIntosh]

sorry to sound rude!!

but are we not meant to be talking about the sign trade? or in particular dawn’s topic?? 😮 😮 😮 😮 😮

Nik

[J. Hulme]

quote niknaxpc:

sorry to sound rude!!

but are we not meant to be talking about the sign trade? or in particular dawn’s topic?? 😮 😮 😮 😮 😮

Nik

Would that be trade waste in a household wheelie bin then?

[Andy Gorman]

You’re probably right outline. It’s a sad indictment of our times that you have to be very careful even when trying to do a good turn. 😕

I recently did a free livery for the minibus at a local after school club and had to check in at reception so I could be supervised while fitting the vinyl in case I was a weirdo.

Anyway, back to the subject – recycling. The original point I made about the different elements of vinyl. As an example, before we can recycle our plastic milk bottles we are asked to remove the lids because they are a different material to the bottle. Likewise vinyl is made up of different materials and the labour in removing the backing paper alone would probably make it not a worthwhile exercise.

[Nicola McIntosh]

bloody cheek!! 👿

i for one do have a WHEELIE BIN but it is for the household!!

anyway i do not have to explain myself or my rubbish to you!! (>)

Nik

[J. Hulme]

quote creativesign:

I wouldn’t call myself a very “green” person really but things like recycling seem so obvious to me. I would love to have a more environmentally sound method of disposing of the waste from our industry….

Nigel

I assume the stripping of the adhesive would be less cost effective than just incinerating it. As recycling is a business, recycling costs are the obstacle.

[Nigel Fraser]

Yes, but surely there would be a way of recycling say the plain backing paper after the films been fitted ? and likewise the weeded vinyl with no backing/application paper ?

I think outline has got a point but personally I would rather not encourage the ridiculous blame culture which seems to be becoming ever more common today – if you’re worried about the kids eating the vinyl then just say something (or put in writing if needs be) to the teachers to cover your back. Most reasonable people would understand that and surely there are other none edible substances in schools too…

Nigel

[Andy Gorman]

Yeah, like the dinners.

Sorry. 😳

[Nigel Fraser]

ha ha 😉

[J. Hulme]

quote niknaxpc:

bloody cheek!! 👿

i for one do have a WHEELIE BIN but it is for the household!!

anyway i do not have to explain myself or my rubbish to you!! (>)

Nik

Apologies, I didn’t make myself clear, my comments referred to the last line of the first and original post.

[J. Hulme]

quote creativesign:

Most reasonable people would understand that and surely there are other none edible substances in schools too…

Nigel

Common sense should prevail but tell that to the American cigarette manufacturers and fast food burger businesses being sued 😉

[Andy Gorman]

Well, maybe the release liner can be recycled like normal paper? Do the manufacturers of vinyl give any clues as to the recyclability (real word?) of their products? Doing as Nik does and shredding the paper is at least making good use of it. I know that the Dutch (I think) take a very dim view of any packaging that isn’t recycled materials. As for the adhesive….erm….eat it?

[Nicola McIntosh]

big g “smoke it” 😆 😆 😆

Nik

[Carrie Brown]

Dawn, I think you started a bit of a discussion here 😆 Oooeerr! (chat.)

I think its probably safe to say that the vinyl can’t really be recycled, huge waste and shame though. Off cuts possibly at your own risk 😕 could be recycled in fun usage, but at least you could do something with the backing paper – packaging …. or possibly collectenough to eventually make a papier mache of Rob Lambie??? 😆

😀

[Andy Gorman]

You’d only need about a metre. 🙂

[Bill Dewison]

Wouldn’t take long then Carrie 😉 😉 😉

Waste wise, yep, lots of waste and I’ll openly admit, I shove trade waste in domestic bin. I pay alot in rates, so why the devil should i pay and extra charge to get rid of a relatively small amount of rubbish when it fills less than 25% of my wheelie bin? 👿 They’re already talking about hoarding charges for having an A board outside shops!! 👿

As for offcuts, had this discussion with Nigel today, I reuse most of them to make mini signs to sell through the shop. Selfish for the little kiddies I s’pose 🙁 The really small offcuts go to MiniMe 😀 He makes some lovely mini signs from it and it makes him very happy that he can make better signs than his Daddy 😉

Cheers, Dewi

[J. Hulme]

quote Dewi:

Wouldn’t take long then Carrie 😉 😉 😉

Waste wise, yep, lots of waste and I’ll openly admit, I shove trade waste in domestic bin. I pay alot in rates, so why the devil should i pay and extra charge to get rid of a relatively small amount of rubbish when it fills less than 25% of my wheelie bin?
Cheers, Dewi

Section 34 of the Environmental Protection Act 1990 says so.

http://www.shropshireonline.gov.uk/wast … 45004B7959

[John & Dawn Roddick]

Didn’t realise I would cause such a stooshie with a JOKE about a wheelie bin. Also, my point was actually about recycling and not about anything else.

[Brian Hays]

Wouldn’t bother me putting “trade waste” in my wheelie bin. £1200 a year council tax & taking away my rubbish is just about the only thing the council get right! (:)