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Question about Bevelled Lettering
Have never bought in these before.
I want a gold finished script letter.
Can any letter be bevelled and how do you present a drawing for a supplier?
I understand that there are constraints on stroke widths etc.
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Are you talking flat cut or moulded or cast lettering????
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I would use a "V" grove router bit to create the bevel, then an ordinary cutting bit to cut out the finished shape. In both cases, the same file would be used to cut the bevel then cut out the shape by the router machine. Best to discuss this with whoever you use to cut out your flat cut lettering.
(There may be other ways of doing this (e.g actually carving the letters) but this is the simplest way to make it happen and was explained to me by Rob).
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quote Mike Grant:Are you talking flat cut or moulded or cast lettering????I’m assuming that because it’s a custom font that it will be cut and routered Mike. Not too sure of options at this stage.
Here is what I am looking to do.
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The method I just described will only cut a bevel of even depth throughout and the lettering would be a single thickness throughout. To achieve what you have there would require carving which would be much more expensive and complex. Do you have scope to adapt your design?
Hopefully this diagram will help to explain what I have described?
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quote Phill Fenton:The method I just described will only cut a bevel of even depth throughout and the lettering would be a single thickness throughout. To achieve what you have there would require carving which would be much more expensive and complex. Do you have scope to adapt your design?
Hopefully this diagram will help to explain what I have described?
Absolutely, only at design stage and is one of those joyful jobs where it has been left to me. 😀
Any chance I could see a finished example of what you mean Phill?
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I think most suppliers would know what you are looking for but opinions can vary between prismatic, bevel or chamfered which I know in past has caused problems. As per Phils email it is very much font dependant and do tend to be router cut from MDF, foam as examples but do require a lot of finishing.
Do you have an actual photo of what you are trying to acheive?
Sam
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Zoomed in on your pic and this looks to be prismatic to me?
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Thanks Sam.
The design shown is only a mockup to show the effect I am after. What would be the best, most economical way to achieve that look in your opinion? -
I recently produced some display stands for my daughters jewellery business – these had bevelled edges. Unfortunately, I don’t have any pictures of the stands as she has them – but this is what was left of the material they were cut from which should give you some idea of what can be achieved using this method.
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I think what you need to look into firstly, is this prismatic, chamferred or beveled. I have called a friend of mine in the industry and he is sending a photo which I will forward as soon as received to give you a guide.
MDF made and finished/sprayed to a gold.
Pic to follow.
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Here’s another example of what Phill was explaining:
In this example the material is 20mm thk and the u/c B is 125mm high. The letters have a 4mm bevel and then the letters are profile cut out.
Notice the bevels on the thinest strokes of the letters are getting fairly close to each other. So if you increase the bevel size/width they will actually meet in the middle and if you increase the bevel width even further they will cross over resulting in a reduction to the actual hight of the letter material where they cross over. So the idea for bevelled letters is to keep the bevel in proportion to the weight of the letter.
Hope all this make s sense.
Neil
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Please see attached a pic of a prismatic MDF cut letter C, been painted to a high gloss finish on this job.
We havent made this but as I am a novice to UK Signboards I need to check if I can post on here someone who can help you.
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I think this is a good picture of a bevelled letter.
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Phill, Mike, Neil, Sam many thanks for that info, I now know what I’m designing for.
What is the price difference like between these methods on a typical standard fascia…megabucks?
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A bevelled acrylic would be far cheaper than a prismatic cut MDF letter that then needs to be finished – there would be big bucks between the two options for sure!
It must be nearly pub o’clock ? 😀
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quote Sam Armstrong:It must be nearly pub o’clock ? 😀
😮 😮 You English are always in’t pub! It’s worse than Coronation Street around here. 😀
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Hi Harry,
You need to be carefull on narrower parts of the lettering as the Router Bit will eat through them. Also be prepared for a huge amount of sanding to get rid of the steps between passes, Having said all that it can work well on PVC, BUT be prepared to work closely with the trade supplier and get samples!
Wish I was in the pub like our colonial cousins!
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Harry, Contact O’Reilly Signs, Galway, http://www.oreillysigns.ie, they do this kind of work for me, they’re very helpful. Just send them an eps file of lettering without chisel effect & ask for it to be routered prismatic.
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Cheers Gavin.
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It’s a bit late to reply, but Enroute software can make pyramid topped letters like that original drawing.
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For future reference anyone using VCarve Pro or Aspire (both from Vectric) should be able to do this quite easily.
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This type of lettering is called prismatic cut any good routing software will have a command within it to machine this style of letter, we use artcam for all our machining
These letters are best used in 19mm PVC as it will last longer in an outdoor application mdf is a cheaper material and will work outside but it needs alot more sealing to stop water getting into it one thing I would say is this type of letter works best on a narrow stoke fonts like arial etc the reason for this is the software works from the widest point off the letter that means the widest point is the highest and the narrowest point of the letter is the smallest point this can leave the letter very weak when handling
Could talk about this for a while if any one needs more advice let me know
I have made thousands of these letters also made letters with bevels and recess
Cheers dave
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