Problem with fades

[Ian Bingham]

Try exporting the fade as a jpeg seems to sort it
Ian

[Stephen Morriss]

I also get better results when fades are exported as jpg’s, sometimes an eps fade doesn’t work at all for me from Corel

[Graeme Harrold]

Dont have Corel in front of me right now, but from memory, I think you have the option of adding intermediate colours in the fade set up……

[Chris Wool]

increase fountain fill steps in the export driver or convert to jpeg.
standard fill is 256 steps you can go to 600 or more,
think of the finished are size to be filled and mentally think of the number of steps in colour change.

clear as mud

chris

[Rod Gray]

Thanks guys,

I suppose i should have mentioned that i was originally saving the photoshop psd file as a jpg.

No matter what i tried, i keep getting this magenta/pink hue through the fade where it meets the white.

I`ll keep plugging away.

Thanks for the replies.

[Rod Gray]

Still struggling with this one guys.

It hasn`t been an issue as my main contract, since the beginning of the year, was a dark red fade through to white. The pink/magenta haze wasn`t a problem.

I`ve now started doing a blue to white and a green to white designs and i`m still getting this magenta tinge through the lighter stages of the fade.

I`ve designed the wrap in CS3 and it prints fine in it`s solid colour state but when i apply the fade, this damned magenta pinky tinge comes through and spoils it.

I`m using the gradient fade from transaparent to white on a new fill layer. This seems to be where it all goes wrong.

Any one have anything else i might try?

[Warren Beard]

Hi Rod

I’m no expert but try taking it in to photoshop and adjusting on the magenta layer, if you get the fade correct the magenta will stop when required and leave only the remaining colours to print, it is sometimes a bit of a hit and miss but if it is taking this long I suppose it’s time to try something else.

Hope that helps 😕

Cheers

Warren

[Stephen Morriss]

Have you tried printing direct from Corel. I presume it’s a Re badged Roland so there should be a printer driver available, Colour profile will be off though.

Steve

[Chris Wool]

yes it is a pain and dont know how to stop it, apart from going to half tones.

chris

[Robert Lambie]

drop the ink output by 15-20% on light magenta and magenta.
if it is noticably better for you then from here you can increase/decrease the percentage till you get it spot on.

[Rod Gray]

Thanks guys, going to have another go today.

[John Childs]

I had exactly the same thing with magenta on a blue to white fade. It turned out to be the material.

A different roll printed fine, as did the original roll once we had run quite a few metres off it.

[DaneRead]

thats interesting what material was it.

Surprised material can do that.Normally you would immediately blame the software.

[John Childs]

quote DaneRead:

thats interesting what material was it.

Surprised material can do that.Normally you would immediately blame the software.

It was a file that we print often for a regular customer, so, same file, same computer, same software, same printer and same genuine inks. Even with all those clues it took me a while to suspect the material. 😀

It was Avery 2000, which we were trying for the first time. Speaking to the rep, he said that he had seen that sort of behavoir before, on all different vinyl makes, and suggested that it might be contamination on the surface. He told me to run through about about ten metres and try it again.

As they were long prints anyway, Movano LWB length, I just let it carry on printing stripes and sure enough, after a while, the magenta effect diminished to the point where it was printing properly again. Had no problem with subsequent rolls of the same material.

[DaneRead]

how do you find the avery 2000 sorry to deviate off the subject. i am currently using 3M IJ 40 as an equivalent. I can just get avery for quite a bit cheaper but i was scared to even try it as i am so happy with the IJ40.

Is it polymeric??

[John Childs]

That’s a good question. I would guess it’s polymeric, but I couldn’t be sure.

It doesn’t matter to us because we only use it for flat panel work anyway. If we need anything better we go straight to Graphiwrap.

We find the 2000 fine. Not too much initial tack, so although not as easy as bubble free, it is still fairly easy to fit. Final adhesion is more than adequate. Apart from that initial glitch, which I understand can happen to any make, we have no complaints and continue to use it.