printer for newbie

[Peter Normington]

3K will not be enough, 10k + will be a starting point.
Peter

[Richard Barker]

oh dear, i will tell her the bad news….

thanks

[David Rogers]

Have a look here – but expect megabucks…. 15 to 30k

http://www.wide-format-printers.org/Fin … ormat.html

[Richard Barker]

do i ahve any options with my 3k? 😳

[Peter Normington]

Thats the bad news,

Now the good,

if you are anywhere near the nec next week, or even if not, Signuk.
is well worth a visit to see what is on offer for print.
Peter

[Richard Barker]

how do i get tickets?

[Peter Normington]

you can just turn up, or click on the link on the home page and register, it is free though, and most pre register, so if it to late, just fill out the form at the door….

Peter

[Richard Barker]

one last question peter, do i need to have a business or can joe public go in?

[Peter Normington]

Any one can go, if you have any problems, tell them you are a mate of Robert Lambie, it usually works, I do it all the time at massage parlours throughout the world 😀 😉

Peter

[Peter Mindham]

quote Peter Normington:

Any one can go, if you have any problems, tell them you are a mate of Robert Lambie, it usually works, I do it all the time at massage parlours throughout the world 😀 😉

Peter

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[Phill Fenton]

You may wish to consider using a trade service to produce your prints for you instead of buying an expensive printer to begin with. There are many companies with wide format printers that would be happy to provide you with a trade service. 😀

[Richard Barker]

hi

never thought of that 🙄

we have looked at companys that do this but it just seemed so expensive, anywhere from £70 to £150 per print.

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thanks for the idea

😀

[Peter Normington]

quote citroen999:

hi

never thought of that 🙄

we have looked at companys that do this but it just seemed so expensive, anywhere from £70 to £150 per print.

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thanks for the idea

😀

Now you can see why they are expensive….

Peter

[David Rowland]

yep.. sounds about right 😎

but it depends of area

[Peter Normington]

quote Dave Rowland:

yep.. sounds about right 😎

but it depends of area

Print or geographical?

Peter

[Stephen Morriss]

You can look at getting a HP5000, they don’t go for huge money and they are very good.

I use a HP3000 and it gives good results on canvas material, the texture on the canvas tends to negate the effect of high DPI’s so it’s down to the colour depth, brightness etc.

Steve

[David Rowland]

i did wonder if a HP dyesub was the answer… but i kept queit as i wasn’t sure

[RobGF]

Epson Ultrachrome is the answer for entry level art reproduction. Until you get into some very expensive systems, Epson owns this market. Do a search through google and you will find that there are lots of sites discussing using Epson systems for this task.

Epson has three printers they aim at this market: 4800, 7600 and 9800. These systems run CcMmY and 3 levels of black.

While the hardware expense for the actual printers aren’t too bad, the costs don’t include any type of professional software, colour management hardware, etc. They also don’t include the money/time you will have to invest learning what the system can do. You must also consider the costs of your consumables. A wide array of fine-art media is made for the Epson systems from the major art players but this stuff is not cheap.

On a positive note, if you’re just printing big raster files you will not actually need a RIP system to start. That’s right… no RIP required.

Rob

[Richard Barker]

hi again

when peter replied to my post and said that i would 10k to get a set up i was ready to call it a day on this project, but today i emailed around 10 printer sales companys who have all emailed me back with quotes on "ideal printers" for the work i want to do. I emailed the exact same question as my original post.

I have to take Peters words very seriously as he has nothing to gain by saying what he has said, but i am now being drawn to listen to what these printer salesmen are telling me and these people do have something to gain.

Being a car sales manger myself i can smell a sales tactic at 100 yards so i wont take any sales pressure.

so here are the printers that i have been recomended

Roland HiFiJet Pro FJ-500

Canon W6400 is £1,999 + vat
Canon W9400 is £3,999 + vat

Canon W8400 (44") Printer

Designjet 130 NR£1600 + £250 for stand
This model has the roll media feeder and also a network connection
(standard machine connects through USB

any thought on the above? will these print great quality to canvas?

thanks for the replys

[Chris Wool]

rob hit the nail on the head for me add epson to your list they are built for the job.
i have a older 9500 epson pigmented inks and will buy again when required.
but as said i would like a real rip for it the windows driver could be better.

roland hi fi on pigmented inks will do very well.

cant comment on cannon but becarfull on ink type if you want to sell prints that will last a while.

chris

[steve-rogers]

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No seriuosly, you can get a more than adequate printer on ebay for 2 grand…

But some are more expensive than others to run..

We use 2 HP DESIGNJET 5500 60"…They print onto canvas all day long because that’s what we do predominantly…

We use these because they are production printers and they are reasonably quick,there aren’t any alternatives on the speed front at the moment unless you want to spend 40k on a printer…..and we dont….

Ours were 13k each…but don’t let that put you off….you can get set up easily for 3k but dont expect anything new….cheers steve

[nick boulby]

When I used to work at banner box we printed canvas art using sublimation printing onto polyester canvas. The results were quite honestly stunning! Any banding in the print just disappears when you transfer it from the paper print to canvas on the BIG heat press.
It is expensive to get set up though, we used a Roland 740 with sublimation inks and a large 3500mm x 1500mm Monti Antonio heat press. Total cost about 75K. OK if you have just inherited something!!

To be honest I have seen some nice prints done on HP printers etc.. for about 2-3K and normal customers cant tell the difference. Its the photographers you have to watch out for!

[Richard Barker]

hi

after a long search and numerous chats with sales reps i am about to buy my first printer.

the printer on offer is a W8200 which prints 44" i was offered this by a printer sales company who have it as a demo.

cost is £1875 + vat, it has stand, roller,cutter, original box and manuals etc.
it has 60% of inks left.

This is for my partner who wants to try her hand at Giclee prints and also black, white, grey pop art on canvas.

any comments on the above printer and price i have been quoted.

quote :

I refuse to tiptoe quietly through life to safely arrive at death!!

[Pauly]

The price sounds pretty good to me. Its a great printer and does its job well and with very minimal print problems, it makes great use of inks and media, but that said, your going to pay a premium for both. I just replaced the head in mine after about 18mths use (we have never had ANY problems since new until recently), cost AU$1000, which i didnt think was too bad, now its printing as well as it did the day it came out of the box. I guess you just have to be sure its going to suit your purpose, we use it for high quality, short run posters and internal lightbox prints. I have never run a canvas through it, so you might want check its going to be hard wearing enough for your purpose. I personally wouldnt use it for high traffic or high UV areas.