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Hi
I have seen this cutter for sale Summa d series 610. includes , signlab 5 , cliparts, vehicle outlines, loads of vinyl, computer (although an old one)
Basically complete set up . £2000
Any views
The cutter is 2 years old
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Summa are a really good make. (I have a D120) The D series is affordable, reliable, has excellent tracking accuracy and easy to set up & use. New D60 costs about £1k with a two or three year warranty – used £650 / £700.
http://www.victorydesign.co.uk/Deals_of_the_month.html
Signlab splits the camp, (Corel & Flexisign the others) but probably the majority of the users find it intuitive & easy to use when you get settled in to it. I also use Signlab and have done for many years. V5 will do all you need to produce some excellent vinyl signage.
I would STRESS that if it’s not a legitimate copy with original disks & a hardware key (dongle) it’s worth nothing in resale value, otherwise £150 to £250 for the real V5 deal as it’s been superceeded several times but still very, very good.
Clipart & outlines are handy although not essential.
A new high spec PC can be had for £300 these days, with a lot of drive space, decent graphics & fast processor – used PC’s don’t hold any intrinsic value – only around £60 for a 1GHz to £150 for a 2GHz so don’t place a lot of value in the PC hardware.
Vinyl stock – for a 600 plotter – about £2 a metre for good quality vinyl – You can do the maths!
At £2k it’s probably a bit rich – you could buy new kit & stock for that sort of money.
DAve
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Cheers Dave
he did say the dongle was damaged but works , so maybe its a copy.
Lee
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quote leemorris:Cheers Dave
he did say the dongle was damaged but works , so maybe its a copy.
Lee
If it’s got a dongle – it’s 99.9% likely to be a genuine version.
If / when you decide to upgrade (should you feel it necessary) Signlab / Cadlink give substantial discounts for those who already have proper copies.
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I’m looking at maybe Summa or Graphtec cutter which would be best ?
Haven’t a clue about software . Can anyone point me in the write direction
Lee
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Lee, you can download signlab to try from their site, No Save or cut facility though, but you can also register on the site and watch the video demos. Not sure about flexi, they must have a demo version as well I would think..
Peter
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They are much of a muchness these days.
It’s just down to personal preference. They now cost about the same too, although Summa seem to have special offers on more frequently.
I’ve ran two Graphtec plotters over the years and they are supremely accurate & fast. When setting up this venture I opted for a Summa due largely in part to the deal I was offered. It too tracks like a dream, fast, accurate & just as easy to work with. (eg. was cutting a 4.5 metre long job of scrollwork with many full length runs and not once did the tracking go out.)
As for software. Signlab is brilliant, been using it since about version 2.95, then 4.95, 5.7, e6 & now 7.0. so know most of it’s features and can whip up designs in minutes in front of clients. (Also saves time in the long run).
There are those that like Corel, and others that opt for Flexisign or Easysign. They all perform the same basic functions, it’s the subtle little tweaks that you learn to love when you use a certain one for a few years. Give me Corel & I’m all but lost, Flexi just seems a myriad of buttons for no reason. But users of those will say thay Signlab lacks easy access to key features.In the end it’s personal preference, budget & what you intend doing with it.
Anybody here with Signlab will recommend it.Dave
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Vinyl Master Pro is i think very good and also you can d/load a FULLY working demo and i think you can get a demo disc sent from Grafityp, vmp goes for £500ish which if you are on a tight budget its seriously worth looking at. 😉
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Hi Lee
I’ve been reading your posts (and the replies) with interest, you seem to really want to make a go of this, good for you.
Regarding Signlab, I bought my business as a going (poorly) concern, with SL 4.95, and a Roland CX24 (610mm width) cutter, and an old computer.
The comp was replaced a long while ago, SL has been upgraded to a newer version, but the cutter is still going strong, and is about 6 years old now, I believe.
Anyway, my point is that I knew nothing when I started, had never used Signlab, or any other program, come to that, but SL IS fantastic. I have Corel also, but wouldn’t know where to start, only ever use it if I’m struggling to open a file in Signlab.
Although Signlab is expensive to buy new, to get a genuine copy with a dongle is a really good way of getting started, so that when you are ready to, you can upgrade to one with more features, at a heavily discounted price.
By far the best thing I did though, was to find this place, and join up. Brilliant help & support, and loads to learn from alll the experienced people here.
Sorry folks, rambling on here……..
Lorraine
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I have downloaded sinlab demo and its seems really basic i’m better using coreldraw .
If you design in coreldraw whats the best way and format for saving and importing the design into signlab ready for cutting.
I think the basic sinlab software was about £500 seems a lot when i can get the cutter for £1000
Lee
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But that’s the point Lee, if you are used to something, it always seems easier and better, although how SL can be ‘really basic’ I’m not too sure…
Oh, BTW, if you are only thinking of using Signlab for cutting, then yes, it is very expensive, you’d be better getting one of the less expensive programs.
There are some people here who use only Corel for designing.
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So if i’m more used to coreldraw can i design with that then just cut , do you get a basic cut program when you buy a cutter .
Whats the nest way ?Lee
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Lee, you can design in Corel if that is what you are used to, and use different plug ins to send to the cutter. I have an original basic Signlab package (mod-edit) (came with the Roland cutter) but use the top of the range package now. I started with Corel but soon found that Signlab could save me time when it came to designing, so invested in it.
Cheers and good luck
Dave
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