planning permission

[Nigel Hindley]

1.5 metres always seemed to be a magical number but I have a feeling it depends where it is and whether it could be classed as a distraction! Also if its in a conservation area – id recommend planning to your client as a matter of course.

Nigel

[Craig Brown]

Take a quick look here at the outdoor planning regulation guide – it’s in pdf format so you can print it if required (covers some of the basics)

http://www.bsga.co.uk/pdfs/outdoor_planning.pdf

[Graeme Harrold]

It looks like residential with a change of use, and could well have a limitation because of the surrounding area. There are quite a few anomalies with the planning guide above, esp with halo lit signs having fewer constraints than standard signage.

Personally I think the sign is too big and not in keeping with the area. Might be better getting railings in and fitting signage to it.

[David Rowland]

stick the sign on the van out front 😉

[Roy Roffey]

you can always ask plymouth shi**y councils so called planning office mate, im sure u`ll laugh all day long after that phone call….

Roffs…

😉

[Phill Fenton]

Ditto :lol1:

Don’t get involved with council bureaucrats – let your clients deal with them. All you can do is act upon your clients instructions – it’s not your problem 😕

[David Lowery]

quote Phill:

All you can do is act upon your clients instructions – it’s not your problem 😕

I disagree!

I do think that we, as sign "professionals" should inform our clients as to their need for planning permission. I would rather do that than fit a sign at a thousand pounds and then being told the council has said it has to come down. Bad for the sign company and bad for the trade as well 🙄

[Phill Fenton]

I always advise my customers on the need for planning permission. After that it’s their responsibility not mine.

[Robert Lambie]

have to say, and i maybe being a bit ignorant to this myself, but i am all for advising folk over the phone/face to face the best i can on planning permission (which i have limited knowledge of, other than the general do’s and dont’s) however, if i am asked, i will do my best to advise, but unless paid to do so, i am not looking into anything for them. point the customer in the right direction and get on with making signs. planning permission can be a can of worms and changes from one area to the next.

If i was putting a conservatory on the back of my house, i wouldn’t expect the window company, or the brickie to go and get my planning permission for me.

i am all for educating the customer and in many ways i believe it helps gain sales. but i just cant see the point in spending hours filling out paperwork, on the phone etc for what could be for a sign for a couple of hundred quid. yes the sign could be worth much much more, but still… unless paid for your time, its the customers donkey work in my opinion…

[David Lowery]

I do charge for the service of applying for permission, even though it may be refused. I feel that this gives a good service from the trade.

[Alan Drury]

I try and let the customer deal with planning, from experience if I charge for every moment I spend dealing with the power pi$$ed half wits in the planning department it would cost more than the sign was worth.
Alan D

[David McDonald]

Hi

From memory generally you have deemed consent if the sign is no bigger than 3 square feet which is much smaller than the mock up you have shown. If the property is on a corner facing two roads then you have deemed consent to display one on each face of the building.

We thoroughly explain to customers whether or not they should apply for advertising consent and in our opinion what type/style/size of sign should be looked upon favorably by planning. We will act as their agents for a fee and will submit all paperwork and liaise with Planning on all matters. Yes it can be a lot of hassle but it gives you almost total control of the process and the sale. Having said that many customers still elect not to go for planning despite us advising them that technically they should – this means there is no come back on us.

Cheers
Macky

[Martin Pearson]

I am another one who leaves it up to the customer to sort out planning permission. Yes as others I will do what I can to advise customers and point out to them what is most likely to be accepted in the area as I have some experience of what the council will and won’t accept, I will give them a copy of the outdoor advertising regulations and point them in the right direction which seems to be a lot more than some company’s I know of do but I won’t actually get involved with the application itself and leave that up to the customer. I did try to help out once and spent a lot more time than I could afford to spend running around for an application which was refused, I then had to try and get something back from the customer for my time and efforts and got no where, think that was mistake number 91,543.
I have also been asked by customers to provide visuals for an application and now do this for a fee payable up front.

[Stephen Morriss]

Just in the process of supplying dimensioned sign proofs for a customers application, post fitting that is, and I did advise them that they would most likely need to apply first.

Steve