Photoshop onto illustrator

[John Wilson]

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[John Childs]

Although there is a bit of overlap, basically Photoshop is a bitmap editing programme, whereas Illustrator is a 2D vector drawing package.

The two are very tightly integrated.

I’ve got the opposite problem to you. I’ve been using Illustrator for twenty years with no problem but now, with the advent of more printing, I need to get to grips with Photoshop. I can feel a course coming on. 🙁

[Ian Muir]

As John says Iain, illoustrator being vector is easy to use to output to a plotter, with photoshop it is printer territory.

My problem, since I am considering getting a printer soon is I have used Coreldraw and corel photopaint for years but most designs from customers seem to come in from illustrator or photoshop software.
re you can usually import these into corel to work with but…….

I judge my skills with coreldraw at about 60% and with Photopaint at about 10%, wondering if it is better to buy and learn Illustrator and Photoshop or continue with Corel family at this point….

Ian :lol1:

[Iain Smith]

thanks john, another course, hand in pocket again then!

quote John Childs:

Although there is a bit of overlap, basically Photoshop is a bitmap editing programme, whereas Illustrator is a 2D vector drawing package.

The two are very tightly integrated.

I’ve got the opposite problem to you. I’ve been using Illustrator for twenty years with no problem but now, with the advent of more printing, I need to get to grips with Photoshop. I can feel a course coming on. 🙁

🙂

[John Childs]

I appreciate that it will be a big learning curve Ian, but I’d go with the Adobe products.

We get files from customers, design agencies and marketing companies. Never had a Corel file yet. They’re always Illustrator or Photoshop.

I know I’m going to get slagged by hordes of happy users for this, but my thoughts are that a professional will be using Adobe and that, in the scale of things, Corel comes somewhere below those, and just above Microsoft Works. 😀

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[Ian Muir]

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I agree adobe stuff is used by professionals by and large but that is historic, that was all that was about on macs years ago so colleges taught adobe, print houses used it and nothing else.

Then along came corel in PC and messed up adobe’s little World, Corel being more user friendly and intuative,,, not to mention less than half the price.

Colleges stick in the past by and large so still mainly teach Adobe to computer graphic students.

At certain times I believe Corel have been ahead of Adobe in develoment of features, presently I think they trail, but only by a small margin…

That said I agree with you that in our game we have to go where the most customers provide artwork from, and that is adobe…

Me heading next week to Smiths for ‘Illustrator and photoshop for dummies’ books.
Another bloody learning curve brought about by these machines that were promised to make our lives easier…. 😕

Ian :lol1:

[Alan Drury]

You’re the same as me then John, most of the files I get are from ‘professional’ using adobe products. I then put them into Corel so I can correct them so they print properly. 😀
Alan D

[John Childs]

Ian,

Corel was made for the Mac platform too, years ago. It couldn’t break the Adobe stranglehold though, and was ceased.

Alan,

I agree that most files from professionals need altering, for me, so that they cut, because designers don’t understand cut lines. At least, with Adobe, I can open them all though, and they will still retain all the effects that would be lost by opening the files in a different package.

[Alan Drury]

Just pulling your leg John, Corel’s MAC version was V11 and sold very few copies, therefore dropped.
Adobe’s products are obviously very strong and I think Acrobat and the pdf format is fantastic.
I do think the Corel Suite deserves a little more credit though especially the last 2 or 3 versions, they are very strong and are more than capable of doing the stuff that Illustrator does often much easier, and for multipage and imposition stuff some way better. Draw also supports a larger page size so everything can be designed in real size and not to scale although it does have this ability too. I suspect we could go on for weeks going over the virtues of one programme over another.
Any application is only as good as the user anyway.
Alan D

[John Childs]

quote Alan Drury:

Just pulling your leg John,

Yeah, I know. 😀

The Corel version I had was 9, and I only bought it because our local council insisted on using it, and didn’t understand the "save as Illustrator" command. The files never opened up correctly though.

I do think that, with software, it is easy to extol the virtues of the brand we use personally, while being unaware of what the competition offers. I suspect that very few people use both regularly enough to be totally aware of the true comparison.

Of course, Acrobat is another reason for using Adobe. The total integration between the three packages is of real value, but I doubt that many people use the facilities to their full capabilities. I know that I don’t.