part wrapping onto newly painted vehicle

[Jason Xuereb]

We wait four weeks and get a disclaimer signed about non oem paint work.

[Martin Pearson]

Do they still use a lot of cellulose paint out there Jason ?? With most modern 2 pack paints the manufacturers state 48 hours as they don’t outgas as they cure the same way cellulose does.

Been discussed on the boards and there were some that use to do them as soon as the vehicle came out the oven.

[Hugh Potter]

quote Martin:

Do they still use a lot of cellulose paint out there Jason ?? With most modern 2 pack paints the manufacturers state 48 hours as they don’t outgas as they cure the same way cellulose does.

Been discussed on the boards and there were some that use to do them as soon as the vehicle came out the oven.

Martin,
to my (limited) knowledge you can’t use 2pack paints anymore, it’s all water based stuff now.

I do a fair bit of work for an accident repair center, either fitting supplied graphics or matching existing, I’ve told them before that it needs at least a week for the decals – they claim it’s fully baked and cured within 2 days, but they need them done and out, I’ve put decals on vehicles still warm from the oven before now -against my better judgment!

[Martin Pearson]

Where’s Richard when you need him?? lol

Hugh, I’m not an expert either but what I had been lead to believe was that there are more health & safety implications with them so a lot of places had stopped using them & had switched over to more health & environmentally friendly water based paints.

Was told that as far as fitting graphics went they were the same as the old 2k paints as they didn’t outgass like cellulose either.

[Jill Marie Welsh]

I do like Jason. No matter what paint type I wait 4 weeks.
If the paint job isn’t a good one you can pull it off the vehicle, and some paints cause outgassing/bubbles.
Best to cover your own ass and make the wait and also sign a waiver that you are not responsible for damages.
Love….Jill

[Ian Davies 2011]

We do a lot of work for a bodyshop and they use a water based paint system, they say it only needs 24 hours before can wrap or apply vinyls but we always wait 48 hours to be sure, never had any issues. (Did once do a car for them that had only been painted 24 hours before and no issues with that one either.)

Ian.

[Arnt Øverland]

hi
Happy new year

They use 2pack for solid colors and a watherbase for metallic with a 2pack clear on top off the basecolor

Regards
Arnt

[Stephen Morriss]

If it’s been in an oven to bake then I’ve no problem doing them the same day, I do always say that it could cause problems later though.

If it’s not been in an oven then I wait a month or so, but I have done some the same week and they seem hard so it’s dependent on the type of paint used.

Good rule of thumb is if you can make an impression in the paint with your finger nail, don’t touch it.

Steve

[Jon Marshall]

quote Ian Davies 2011:

We do a lot of work for a bodyshop and they use a water based paint system, they say it only needs 24 hours before can wrap or apply vinyls but we always wait 48 hours to be sure, never had any issues. (Did once do a car for them that had only been painted 24 hours before and no issues with that one either.)

Ian.

It’s when it needs to be removed that the issues will arise.

[Richard Urquhart]

all the colours are applied using water base technology but this has to be covered in 2K CLEAR , however you can and some bodyshops use solvent base coats,Rich

[Mark van Dam]

quote Jill Marie Welsh:

I do like Jason. No matter what paint type I wait 4 weeks.
If the paint job isn’t a good one you can pull it off the vehicle, and some paints cause outgassing/bubbles.
Best to cover your own ass and make the wait and also sign a waiver that you are not responsible for damages.
Love….Jill

LOL, is he cute? Seriously, make them wait, for their own good.

[Tim Rae]

2k solids are still readily available in the UK for commercial vehicles and classic car refurbs. As are 1K basecoat systems.
Waterbased basecoats can be cleared over with 2k, 2k non isocyanate, waterbased lacquers and now with advanced technology 1k lacquers.
My company recommends no decals, paint protection film, waxing for a minimum of 30 days to allow for ‘gassing off’. Push the time boundaries and you’ll run the risk of ‘solvent pop’ (pin p rick bubbles). There are too many variables i.e. has the painter been too heavy handed (impatient) in laying down the coats, has 2k or 1k (heavy in solvents) primer been layed down under a waterbased basecoat. As one can appreciate the list goes on and on. Oven baked paintwork isn’t the be and end all, paint still needs to gas off. If in doubt…then wait.