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    Posted by Bill Dewison on 15 January 2005 at 14:18

    I know this won’t even come close to what some of the tradional signwriters do on here, but this is the first time I’ve been paid to do a hand-painted sign and I’m just really chuffed with it 😀

    I made quite a few mistakes, one of which was using cheap brushes (having to dig brush hairs out every 2 minutes) and I started off using the wrong paint 😳 Enjoyed making it though 😀

    Cheers, Dewi

    Edit: I forgot to mention, the indent in the centre is for a brass miner’s lamp, I’m hoping to get some pictures of it when it has the lamp in place 😀


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  • Andrew Bennett

    Member
    15 January 2005 at 14:24

    I think it looks great mate.
    What paints did you use to start and finish with then?

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    15 January 2005 at 14:28

    impressed of saltash 😉

  • Bill Dewison

    Member
    15 January 2005 at 14:29

    Thank you! 😀

    😳 😳 I actually started with Hammerite 😳 😳 I just thought it would work okay and give it a hammered gold look, but it just looked aweful. Luckily I’d only done a tiny amount when I realised so off I went to search for some enamel paint as had been suggested to me on here.

    I ended up using Japlac gold enamel, which is very liquidy and it seems to dry very very quickly. Alot easier to use though and I’m really pleased with the finish.

    Like I say, I know its only simple lettering, its just I’ve been itching to do a real job with paint so I’m over the moon now I’ve finally done one 😀

    Cheers, Dewi

  • Paul Goodwin

    Member
    15 January 2005 at 16:21

    Looks nice Dewi

    did u use paint mask for the lettering, or all done freehand?

    and if paintmask how long u leave it on before taking it off

  • Bill Dewison

    Member
    15 January 2005 at 17:13

    Yep, used the Oracal paint mask that Nik sent me a while back, then touched it up by hand once I’d took the paint mask off.

    It dryed very quickly, about an hour, maybe a little more. When it was coming off though, there were bits that needed sorting as the mask took off some of the edges. Whole thing from start to finish was a couple of hours, most of which was the drying time.

    I really want to try some more painted stuff now though, it gives a different buzz than when you work with vinyl. The fact that I could add a little swirl on the R, and the different textures of the paint on paint, just looks so much better than if I’d slapped some gold vinyl on 😀

    Cheers, Dewi

  • John Harding

    Member
    15 January 2005 at 17:29

    Nice work dewi 😀

    Mort – from my own experience of paint mask, lift it when the paint is still wet, when the paint dries the paint grabs the edge of the mask and comes away in lumps along the edge, the last one I did I left only for 10/15 mins while I had a coffee before removing the mask.

    John

  • Paul Goodwin

    Member
    15 January 2005 at 17:57

    John thats what my old man always taught me when decorating and using maskingtape, wasn’t sure if same applied when using other paints though, should have thought about it realy 🙂

  • Bill Dewison

    Member
    15 January 2005 at 18:27

    I possibly left the mask on too long then, it lifted edges of the letters, hence the retouching to finish it off. But it felt like I was a signwriter for about 30 seconds, so I wasn’t complaining :lol1:

    Cheers, Dewi

  • signworxs

    Member
    15 January 2005 at 18:29

    We will convert you to using all paint before you know it dewi. Jill will be chuffed you’ve used brush and paint. :lol1:

  • Andrew Bennett

    Member
    15 January 2005 at 18:36

    And sprays and dyes (hot)

  • signworxs

    Member
    15 January 2005 at 19:10

    I always take the mask off when the paint has gone tacky, If you lift it when its wet you can cause strings of paint which drop and make a mess and as you have said leave it too long and the paint forms a skin between the mask and substrate and pulls the edges.

  • Bill Dewison

    Member
    15 January 2005 at 19:17

    I was quite surprised at how quickly the paint dried though, how long does it normally take to dry?

    I’m considering using the same method to add some text to the outside of my shop, apart from the fact it looks quite good, its fun to do as well.

    I’ve had a couple of goes with spray paint, mainly spraying over clear vinyl that I’ve printed on and although it looked good when I first did it, the spray paint I used dried rock solid and cracked when I tried to apply the sticker 😕 I’d be interested to know what type of paint to look out for to paint vinyl and other stuff.

    Also, the brushes I used were rounded and came to a fine point. Am I using the right type of brushes for this type of stuff, or should I be using the flat kind? Whats the difference/uses for these brushes?

    Cheers, Dewi

  • Nicola McIntosh

    Member
    15 January 2005 at 23:26

    great job dewi!! 😛 😛

    bet you feel great doing paint… 😉 anyway brushes flat head ‘chisled’ are one-shot for lettering they hold more paint (ed’s department) 😀 and i use them also for filling in large letters on banners, the thin ones are for lining and smaller lettering 😛 😛
    keep it up dewi you’ll get the bug at some point!! 😉

    forgot to mention http://www.handover.co.uk best place for brushes!! 😉

    nik

  • J. Hulme

    Member
    16 January 2005 at 00:04

    Bloody hell mate, seems to be a lot of interest in your ashtray 😉
    Did you use use coreldraw for that 😉 😉 😉 😉

    Down Dewi… 😉

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    16 January 2005 at 00:41

    that image has been clicked on more than 1000 times in 24hrs 😮

    you did well mate… 😉 great stuff….

    im with the others, when i ink banners and that kinda thing with a stencil vinyl, i remove when tacky. as has been said you get strings lifting wet at times…
    if using a mask vinyl i always heat the tencil and rub down firm because sometimes paint or ink tends to bleed under the vinyl if you dont have it on properly.

    great stuff mate, thanks for taking the time to show us 😀

  • signworxs

    Member
    16 January 2005 at 02:04

    Dewi if you want to use spray cans for fade effects on vinull use Humbrol. Remember Humbrol is formulated for plastic models. Slightly scuff the vinyll and spray from a low angle, never had any problems with adhesion in over 10 yeard using it. Oh forgot to say spray before you weed the vinull.


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  • Andrew Bennett

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    16 January 2005 at 10:23

    Didn’t know miners smoked 😀

    Do you need to laminate using humbrol paints for external use please (?)

  • signworxs

    Member
    16 January 2005 at 14:54

    In short NO. never had to clear coat. the sign I posted has been outside for well over a year and is still good, also did the van the same way and thats has been though the car wash many times and again is still good.

  • Jill Marie Welsh

    Member
    16 January 2005 at 15:18

    Dewi,
    Haven’t been able to log on again for 2 days (site under construction)
    What a treat to be able to see this!
    Ya done good Kid.
    See if you can find Permagild over there,
    it’s a cool gold paint.
    Good brushes are vitally important too, check out Nik’s link.
    At first they will seem too long but you get used to that.
    To me, there is almost nothing better than to do something by hand.
    Like how you described thr R bit, no computer has human eyes to see
    or a heart to feel the joy of ad-libbing.
    Love….Jill

  • Bill Dewison

    Member
    17 January 2005 at 10:22

    Thank you 😀

    I’m still waiting for the gent to come and collect it, its a bit nerve racking in a way, just hoping he appreciates my ad-libbing :lol1:

    I’ll look out for the Permagild Jill and I think I may have to invest in some half decent brushes. I bought 3 packs of (what I thought) were reasonable brushes, variety of sizes and shapes, but I hadn’t accounted for them loosing bristles with every stroke 😕 I did enjoy it though, so its well worth a couple more quid for some decent ones.

    Paul, thank you for the advice with the spray paint. Again, I picked up a variety (albeit the cheapest ones 😳 ) but I’ll grab some Humbrol and have a lash about 😀

    Outline, I know, even with the lettering, it still looks like a bloody ashtray :lol1: Can’t wait to see the lamp in it, at least I won’t be tempted to put my ciggies out in it :lol1: And yep, used CorelDRAW to do the layout, took me a while to figure out how to get the lettering to look right as the path tools in CorelDRAW aren’t the best in the world. Let me guess, Flexisign does it better? :lol1:

    1000 clicks though 😮 I daren’t mention that 950 of them was me :lol1:

    The responses to this thread have certainly given me more confidence in having another go 😀 I’ll be plugging painting left, right and centre now, I’m itching to do a fancy sign in paint 😀 Again, thank you to everyone for your comments, very much appreciated 😀

    Cheers, Dewi

  • Paul Goodwin

    Member
    17 January 2005 at 10:48

    Stupid question is the humbrol the model paint humbrol ?

    i’ll prob find the answer when i re read this thread 🙂

  • signworxs

    Member
    17 January 2005 at 13:47

    yup Mort it is but in spray cans.

  • Paul Goodwin

    Member
    17 January 2005 at 14:32

    Thanks 🙂

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