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    Posted by Ewan Chrystal on 14 June 2017 at 13:17

    So, i had a van in 2 weeks ago. I had signed it originally but it was in an accident and had to be resprayed on one side. Signed it back up but now the paint is lifting. Now, the thing is, whenever i lay vinyl over an expansion joint on a van i always cut the vinyl down the edge of the joint to prevent it lifting. The body shop are saying i have cut through the paint allowing water to get in behind the paint and lift it. I’ve spoken to another bodyshop and they say this is nonsense. They are saying that the base coat has been applied to thick and wasn’t dry before the top coat was applied and as it is water based paint it will never dry and the paint will peel and blister. So basically the top coat is floating on the base coat. What has happened when i have cut the vinyl is i have merely highlighted the poor paint work, and example is, what happens if it gets a stonechip? same result, the paint will lift.
    I have yet to get back to the original body shop with my findings but just curious as to how you guys would approach this and how can i avoid this in the future?

    Ewan Chrystal replied 8 years, 3 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    14 June 2017 at 13:27

    I guess you could offer to peel off some of the vinyl to show that it’s not just where you’ve trimmed.. it’s a difficult on as knifless tape doesn’t work well on small bits so a new blade and care is all you can sometimes do.

    I’ve had it a few times now where either factory or aftermarket paint comes away.. hard to prove but diffcult for the customer to argue against if more peels away when removing vinyl.

  • David Stevenson

    Member
    14 June 2017 at 14:44

    Hi, I know it doesn’t help in this situation but for future reference there’s now a knife-less tape available with 2 wires in it designed for the very purpose of expansion joints. Run it down the joint then pull the 2 wires at once. Costs a few quid more but saves a lot of hassle

  • Ewan Chrystal

    Member
    14 June 2017 at 15:58

    Cheers guys, the owner of the van is on my side with this which helps. He’s not long off the phone to say he dug his finger nail into the door and it’s peeling as well where there’s no vinyl. I’m fairly confident I’ll come out of this ok judging by what I’ve seen and been told

  • Ewan Chrystal

    Member
    14 June 2017 at 23:31

    Well he brought the van to let me see it. We could literally peel the paint off with our finger nails. Let’s see how the body shop approach this one

  • David Rogers

    Member
    15 June 2017 at 01:28

    I see that periodically with poor repairs. Had entire sides of vans lift off when trying to remove the application tape!
    Last one I had was a poorly sprayed bottom half of a door in silver…customer came back complaining that I’d missed a number off his contact details…on closer inspection the outline of where the number HAD been could be seen as it’d been jetwashed off.

    I wouldn’t worry about it, most people accept that paint shouldn’t peel off!

  • Iain Pearson

    Member
    16 June 2017 at 05:36

    Morning Ewan
    Sadly, as others have pointed out, this is quite common with poorly repaired and painted vehicles.
    Do you make your clients sign a disclaimer prior to install ??
    If not, I would certainly consider it for the future.
    I created one a few years back and now every vehicle we do the client has to sign

  • Ewan Chrystal

    Member
    16 June 2017 at 06:37

    No Iain I don’t but I think it’s something I need to consider

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