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Not printing Vectors
Can anyone tell me why I have a problem printing vectors sometimes?
I’m using Color Rip 2.2, and several times recently I tried to print a sign with lots of vectors.
As an example, today I was a printing a 600mm x 800mm full color sign, with a gradient background, and 4 large vector files with gradiants too, that I purchased from Istock.
Problem is, I send it to the RIP, and it shows on the preview, but when it prints, it just prints the background gradient. This has happened before too, when it will miss a vector, but print everything else on the file.
I get/got around it by exporting the file as a tiff, and it prints fine.
I’d love to know what, if anything, I’m doing wrong. I wasted a heap of material today because I was doing 2 or 3 other things at the same time, and I forgot to check the print as it progressed.
Any help would be appreciated
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I’ve had similar using Corel and Exporting as an eps but it always showed in the preview, I don’t think I’ve had anything that’s in the preview not print.
Did it show in the preview in the print que where you setup the job on the sheet?
I’ve had loads of problems exporting gradients but I’ve got X3 now and that seemed to make some things better but I still have problems with interactive transparency on images over vector fills, the vector colour is ok and the solid part of the image is ok but where the fade is the background colour is completely wrong.
I’m using postscript 3 in the export options.Steve
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quote Stephen Morriss:I’ve had similar using Corel and Exporting as an eps but it always showed in the preview, I don’t think I’ve had anything that’s in the preview not print.Did it show in the preview in the print que where you setup the job on the sheet?
I’ve had loads of problems exporting gradients but I’ve got X3 now and that seemed to make some things better but I still have problems with interactive transparency on images over vector fills, the vector colour is ok and the solid part of the image is ok but where the fade is the background colour is completely wrong.
I’m using postscript 3 in the export options.Steve
Thanks Steve. I’m running X3 too. I don’t recall these issues on V12 though.
Yes it did show in the preview in the print que.
The only time I’ve had wrong colours is when I export an rgb image as a cmyk, and some of the colors are outside the cmyk spectrum.
Other than that, I’ve had my machine calibrated and it works well in that respect.
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the only times i had bits missing is when the size of the eps was very large it shows up fine in the preview put misses a chunk when printing.
to over come this i quite often on bigger complicated stuf send at qtr size to reduce the eps also be aware of auto expanding the gradients
the size of the riped file has never been a problem.
colourrip 2.2
chris
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Thanks Chris. Didn’t think of that solving the problem.
must remember that next time 😉
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i have also had this issue, I think might have used the weld function to keep everything together?might be worth a shot.
cheers
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If you have hundreds of vectors ensure that they are not combined in Draw to produce 1 object that contains all the shapes and therefor has 1000’s of nodes, this will trip the RIP especially if the exported eps was level 1. If you were to import an eps containing gradients into draw and view in wireframe it would be made of hundreds of small shapes, either convert the gradient to a bitmap or try Ripping a pdf.
Alan D -
quote Alan Drury:If you have hundreds of vectors ensure that they are not combined in Draw to produce 1 object that contains all the shapes and therefor has 1000’s of nodes, this will trip the RIP especially if the exported eps was level 1. If you were to import an eps containing gradients into draw and view in wireframe it would be made of hundreds of small shapes, either convert the gradient to a bitmap or try Ripping a pdf.
Alan DThanks Graeme
Thanks Alan. Actually, on reflection I think it was ‘grouped’ into one pic, as I had centered it to the page. I don’t recall ungrouping before I exported it. Would that be the same thing?
Exporting to a tiff was successful, but ripping as a pdf would be the same I suppose. I usually get clients that are specific about printing their design, to send a pdf then I rip their own file, I guess I should take my own advice :lol1:
Thanks for the replies. 😉
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Hi Shane, grouping is quit different to combining.
If you were to place a yellow circle on top of a black square and grouped it you would get would get just that- 1 group made of 2 objects. (control clicking would allow the yellow to be selected) If you were to combine them the yellow would become a ‘hole’ and on selection control nodes would be made up of both ie it is now one object not two.
Alan D -
Did you say Corel shane?
We dropped EPS years ago… PDF works 95% of the time… however you are limited to 5 mtrs in a PDF without scaling.
Could be anything shane… screen shots of the RIP screen and file possible?
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So what do you use when you want to go over 5M, Dave?
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quote Dave Rowland:Did you say Corel shane?
We dropped EPS years ago… PDF works 95% of the time… however you are limited to 5 mtrs in a PDF without scaling.
Could be anything shane… screen shots of the RIP screen and file possible?
That’s interesting Dave. I’ve considered going straight to pdf workflow myself, but old habits die hard.
I’m guessing you just scale the file for anything over 5m? Old rule still apply? – 25% of file size x 400% of dpi? I have to do that with hi def files anyway sometimes.
Its a long weekend here, I’ll see about a screen dump on tuesday….
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