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  • Need advice on fitting dreaded cheverons to pick ups

    Posted by Liam Pattison on 14 September 2009 at 12:46

    Hi
    i have read just about as much as my brain can take about reflective chevrons on here. So i would like to ask for some advice.

    I need to fit chevrons to the rears of two pick ups, one toyota hi ace and one mitsubishi warrior. We are fine with the fitting part as we have done them before, but only for other sign firms.

    So i was wondering which materials to buy.

    I want to use a bright yellow vinyl, NOT a fluorescent, but a good quality one.

    i was wondering what type of material to use for the red reflective. Should i use some kind of honeycomb or diamond grade. Or will a more reasonably priced material suffice for this?

    Could anybody recommend a material they have used for each part?

    Many thanks in advance

    Liam

    Peter Mindham replied 16 years, 3 months ago 4 Members · 9 Replies
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  • George Elsmore

    Member
    14 September 2009 at 13:04

    what class of reflective can depend on where they are operating ie motorway? just general roads etc etc

  • Liam Pattison

    Member
    14 September 2009 at 13:20

    Sorry, i should have mentioned that they are tree surgeons, does anyone know what grade would be required for this.

    Their work is specifically cutting down trees from around power lines.

    Liam

  • George Elsmore

    Member
    14 September 2009 at 13:24

    If they operate on the motorway they need to be class 1 red and fluorescent class 1 yellow if not class 2 red and yellow but they may as well have class one from the offset

  • Liam Pattison

    Member
    14 September 2009 at 13:41

    Hi
    thanks for that George, could you let me know the details of the class one materials and a supplier if it’s not too much bother please. Or would i be better off ringing my usual supplier and asking about this type of thing?

    Cheers

    Liam

  • George Elsmore

    Member
    14 September 2009 at 13:46

    have a nose around this site 😀

  • Liam Pattison

    Member
    14 September 2009 at 13:50

    Ok thanks George, ill do some investigation

    Liam

  • Stuart Taylor

    Member
    14 September 2009 at 13:57
    quote George Elsmore:

    If they operate on the motorway they need to be class 1 red and fluorescent class 1 yellow if not class 2 red and yellow but they may as well have class one from the offset

    Minefield !!!

    Just to clarify the reflective classications for Class 1 and Class 2 reversed under the DFT document EN12899-1 (2007) i.e. "Old Class 1" (High Intensity, Honeycombed etc) became Class 2 and "Old Class 2" which was engineering grade (No Prisms or honeycombs) became Class 1.

    Chapter 8 which recommends use of reflective/fluorescent markings for vehicles working on the Public Highways refers to the use of retroreflective (Red) materials on the rear of vehicles to Class 2 (NEW) as per EN12899-1 OR Microprismatic. Yellow should be non reflective and fluorescent. Chapter 8 is only a recommendation however the Highways Agency have stated vehicles MUST be marked to Chapter 8 for vehicles working on Highway Agency roads.

    Many still use new Class 1 (Engineering Grade) for rear markings but if working on HA roads they will theoretically not be allowed to stop.

    We have some gudelines around design and types of reflective on our website (you can find it through the toolbar) and follow the products/materials supply/high vis links

    Hope this helps

    Stuart

  • Liam Pattison

    Member
    14 September 2009 at 14:24

    Hi stuart,
    thanks, i think i will contact you (william smith) about getting a couple of kits made up.

    Cheers

    Liam

  • Peter Mindham

    Member
    15 September 2009 at 15:04

    Our understanding is that Chapter 8 will be a legal requirement sooner than later for all vehicles. May be wrong but that is what we have been told. Tennants sell easy to fit kits at reasonable prices so they may be worth a call also.

    Peter

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