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    Posted by Andy Gorman on 25 November 2004 at 22:39

    Nothing very special, but here’s a job I fitted a few days ago. Kestrel slimline lightbox with translucent vinyls.

    If I ever learn how to take a decent night shot with my digital camera I’ll load a picture, as at night it looks fantastic.


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    Guy Burt-Davies replied 21 years, 1 month ago 12 Members · 29 Replies
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  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    25 November 2004 at 22:43

    look great mate… i bet the cyrise glow nice in the evening?
    i like the slim boxes too.. those big ones look dated i think.

    great stuff anyway G, thanks for taking the time to post mate 😉

    only suggestion would have to be to make the dots between the words maybe black or white with a black outline?

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    25 November 2004 at 22:49

    Nice sign big g
    Always thought zanado was spelt xanadoo but then customer is always right
    Peter & lynn

  • Andy Gorman

    Member
    25 November 2004 at 22:49

    Thanks Rob. Tried that with the dots, customer made a couple of changes to end up with the above. Like I said, these things really need to be seen at night. The translucent vinyls are the business! Also, with plenty of tubes in the lightbox, it really glows.

    Pete,
    Colleridge spells it with an X but hairdressers have their own ideas of spelling!

  • Carrie Brown

    Member
    25 November 2004 at 23:01

    Nice work Big G :thumbup2: would like to see a nightime pic if ever you get one 😀

    Carrie 😀

  • Nigel Fraser

    Member
    25 November 2004 at 23:06

    looks cool mate 😀 how did you go on with the centre join leaking light where the black meets black ?

    Nigel

  • Signs & Wonders

    Member
    25 November 2004 at 23:09

    Smart looking sign Big G. 😎

    Looks the Business!

    Tony

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    25 November 2004 at 23:14

    we’re doin a window for a hairdresser next week, Pity that they all have to stick so much crap on their windows, will they ever learn?

  • Nicola McIntosh

    Member
    25 November 2004 at 23:27

    really nice sign big g!! 😛 😛

    Nik

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    25 November 2004 at 23:29

    on another note, i still dont know how you manage these size of signs on your todd mate. 😮
    surely you got a hand there? 😕 :lol1: :lol1: no wonder they call you “big g” or is that for another reason… ahem 😳

  • Carrie Brown

    Member
    25 November 2004 at 23:34
    quote Robert Lambie:

    no wonder they call you “big g” or is that for another reason… ahem 😳

    :lol1: :lol1: throwing compliments about now Robert 😉 :lol1:

  • Nicola McIntosh

    Member
    25 November 2004 at 23:35

    :giggle: :giggle: :giggle:

    (i’m definately not winking at this one) 😛

    Nik

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    25 November 2004 at 23:36
    quote Carrie:

    quote Robert Lambie:

    no wonder they call you “big g” or is that for another reason… ahem 😳

    :lol1: :lol1: throwing compliments about now Robert 😉 :lol1:

    no no, of course not… we know it means big guy! then again… even that sounds… em.. foget it ill ruine this thread.. me and my big gob! :lol1: :lol1:

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    25 November 2004 at 23:45

    Did a search and it seams its almost unique (zanadu) Hope your client got copyright on the name
    http://www.acersnowmec.com/clients.htm

  • Andy Gorman

    Member
    25 November 2004 at 23:49

    Actually, they call me Big G because I have an enormous……garden. (Actually, it’s quite small, the garden that is!)

    Erm right, Nigel, the panels are opal with rebated joins. I just wrap the black vinyl around the edge and along the rebate, if you know what I mean. I’ve done a few like this before and it seems to stay in place.

    As for fitting a 14 foot lightbox on my own: I got it made in 2 pieces of 7 foot. Still hard work, but I’m a bit mental.

  • Carrie Brown

    Member
    25 November 2004 at 23:50

    the company on the website has an extra “d” in their name 😀

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    25 November 2004 at 23:56

    sorry about the spelling. These boards are riddled with dyslectics after all we are only sign writers/makers.Zandadu is still quite unique though,perhaps you could change the sign Teh Heh.
    Peter

  • Bill Dewison

    Member
    26 November 2004 at 00:40
    quote big G:

    Still hard work, but I’m a bit mental.

    😀

    Really smart sign Andy, did you manage to get one of it at night with the digi or???

    Cheers, Dewi

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    26 November 2004 at 00:54
    quote :

    As for fitting a 14 foot lightbox on my own: I got it made in 2 pieces of 7 foot. Still hard work, but I’m a bit mental.

    nightmare mate… major pat on the back for that. 7 foot or even 3 foot (im talking about the sign here 😉 behave) that is still a big chunk of sign to cope with holding and fixing in place. getting level too 😕
    anyway, well done. 😉

    regarding overlapping of vinyl on joint. you could always use black paint in those bits to block light? also.. put some black vinyl in a couple of inches from joins just incase.

  • Paul P

    Member
    26 November 2004 at 09:40

    Big G, can you give me the contact details for the light box manufacturer? I’ve not seen slim lightboxes before, one of those would have saved me a whole heap of hassle with a job i’m in the middle of at the moment…..typical 😕

    Cheers
    Paul

  • Lee Harris

    Member
    26 November 2004 at 09:43

    Me to, Big G. Try and post a photo with it lit up. Must look superb.

    Regards
    Lee

  • Andy Gorman

    Member
    26 November 2004 at 10:02

    Kestrel Signs in Birmingham – 0121 783 0779

  • Paul P

    Member
    26 November 2004 at 11:16

    Thanks for that big g, just looked at their website http://www.kestrelsigns.com Which depth box did you use on this one?
    The sign looks great by the way, much better than the old style deep lightboxes.
    Do you use these slim boxes often, are there any issues caused by the proximity of the tubes to the face? i.e brighter patches directly above the tube etc.

  • Andy Gorman

    Member
    26 November 2004 at 12:08

    They call it slimline 100 although it is actually about 115mm deep. Never had any problems with hotspots. I like to design the signs with a coloured background which would minimise this potential problem more than a white background.

    I too prefer these slimmer boxes to the deeper ones; much less prominent, especially when mounted over an entrance.

  • Gary Davis

    Member
    26 November 2004 at 12:13

    out of interest do you have to get an electrician to install the lighting power supply or is it all 12 volt?
    just wondered if you had to go drilling into building and the like running cables!

  • Andy Gorman

    Member
    26 November 2004 at 17:02

    Just runs from 240v. I ran a cable up into the suspended ceiling and out behind the sign through the old timber fascia. I’m OK doing fairly basic wiring like this ( I am qualified ). If gaining access to power is more difficult I usually ask the customer to get a proper leccy in.

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    26 November 2004 at 19:37

    i basicaly drill a hole through into the shop and drop about 15 feet of cable in. i stick a plug on the end and fire it up… just to show it works, i then tell them to get a spark in and connect it up proper.

  • Gary Davis

    Member
    28 November 2004 at 17:49

    as big G mentions he is qualified, and i presume you would have to be to install 240v lighing supply to commercial premises? Is there any particular qualification specific to the sign game? Or were you an electrician before a signmaker big G?

  • Andy Gorman

    Member
    28 November 2004 at 19:23

    I did an electrician’s course at college when I was in the sixth form. It was on offer, so I took it. I doubt whether the qualification I have would be acceptable in this day and age, but I at least do know what I am doing.
    I have, in the past, had to get a ‘proper’ leccy in to just inspect connections and say they are OK. Most shop owners don’t really care as long as the thing works. I would imagine insurance co.s would require a qualified leccy to make any connections.

  • Guy Burt-Davies

    Member
    28 November 2004 at 20:18

    The question of connecting up illuminated signs opens a whole can of worms – ‘officially’ to make a permanent connection to a mains (240v) supply you should be qualified to the latest edition of the IEE regulations (Institute of Electrical Engineers). If however, you put a plug on the sign so that installation is no more difficult than plugging in a kettle (and I’m sure that you’ve all had some practice at that 😉 ) you can check and test the electrics in your workshop and put a sticker inside the sign affirming that the electrics have been checked prior to installation (if you’ve bought the box in pre wired from a reputable supplier there should be a test certificate or sticker already in the sign). This method also has the benefit of you not having to run the risk of electrocution and means that the sign can then be PAT tested in the future.

    By fitting the plug you’re saving yourselves a lot of potential future grief if the premises where you’ve fitted the sign fails an electrical check due to your wiring or there is a fire due to an unqualified electrical installation – if there is anything dodgy with the wiring in your sign the fuse in the plug should blow before anything dangerous happens.

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