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    Posted by Nick Tunstill on 18 June 2011 at 11:12

    Is it always essential to laminate a printed vinyl to apply on dibond material? It’s printed on a good quality vinyl with eco solvent ink but the customer wants it as cheap as possible!
    Thanks
    Nick

    Nick Tunstill replied 14 years, 4 months ago 9 Members · 14 Replies
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  • Chris Wool

    Member
    18 June 2011 at 11:32

    3 thoughts here.
    1 laminate it and its easier to fit cost laminate = better looking sign
    2 some people use application tape to make it easier to fit cost app tape.
    3 go for it as is.

  • Mo Gillis-Coates

    Member
    18 June 2011 at 16:00

    You know what, someone local to me who I am very good friends with in a really successful sign business told me to tell customers who want a really cheap job that I don’t do cheap…

    So far it’s really worked for me, especially if you tell them that cheap, really in the long run, never is cheap!

    I had to grow some big cohones…. but it’s sound advice.

  • Martin Cole

    Member
    18 June 2011 at 16:55
    quote Nick Tunstill:

    Is it always essential to laminate a printed vinyl to apply on dibond material? It’s printed on a good quality vinyl with eco solvent ink but the customer wants it as cheap as possible!
    Thanks
    Nick

    No not essential…. and surprised your customer is going for composite if wanting cheap cheap

    No mention of where the sign is going,so could dictate if laminate is required.

    as Chris said a much easier fit with laminate

  • Peter Mindham

    Member
    18 June 2011 at 18:33

    Fit with laminate for sure every time.
    If its on composite it suggests it will be there for some time. If not, should have been corex to start with?

    Sign in my shop copied from a friends auto shop.

    You can have:

    CHEAP AND FAST = NOT GOOD
    CHEAP AND GOOD = NOT FAST
    FAST AND GOOD = NOT CHEAP.

    Live by these rules and you will be O.K. πŸ˜€

    Nice picture Martin.

    Peter

  • Martin Cole

    Member
    18 June 2011 at 18:52
    quote Peter Mindham:

    You can have:

    CHEAP AND FAST = NOT GOOD
    CHEAP AND GOOD = NOT FAST
    FAST AND GOOD = NOT CHEAP.

    Live by these rules and you will be O.K. πŸ˜€

    Nice picture Martin.

    Peter

    I like that Peter,..

    when you down this way?

    showed the wife my pic and she laughed 😳 back to the ol head and shoulders shot πŸ˜€

  • Peter Mindham

    Member
    18 June 2011 at 19:57

    Put it up in your shop my friend.
    It gives the clients a great message!

    Hope to be down in the next month. Ill let you know we can have a natter.

    I like the pic. Keep it up there you look wise and worldly πŸ™‚

    Sorry to hijack this Nick ill get me coat

    Peter

  • Graeme Harrold

    Member
    18 June 2011 at 22:10

    Another good quote I got off of these boards…………

    β€œThe bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price has faded from memory.”

  • Martin Pearson

    Member
    18 June 2011 at 23:40

    I would always laminate same as most of the others have said, can’t understand why you are using a composite if the customer want’s cheap either.
    Just explain to the customer the advantages of having a laminate on top and the disadvantages of not bothering.

  • Nalu

    Member
    22 June 2011 at 18:55

    Hello Nick,

    I’ve done this many times before, however, I’ve alway’s used my Laminating machine. If you have a laminating machine, it’s much easier to handle the application to the diebond.

    The problem. It’s too thin and flimsy. If the graphic material is saturated with ink the problem only becomes worse. Try doing a small sample of 100% black and you’ll see what I mean. As you pull the release liner away, things will begin to stretch. Not to mention the air bubbles and crinkles. These problems go away when using an overlaminate.

    In general, I prefer to use overlaminate for all the reason’s that the other’s have already mentioned. But it can be done without an overlaminate, but I’d strongly recommend using a laminating machine (cold or slightly warm).

    How big is the sign your making?

  • Nigel Pugh

    Member
    22 June 2011 at 20:20

    Sorry nothing to do with this thread but Martin that is a bit of a Clooney look you have going there……’cept for the caterpillar πŸ˜€

  • Martin Cole

    Member
    22 June 2011 at 20:43
    quote Nigel Pugh:

    Sorry nothing to do with this thread but Martin that is a bit of a Clooney look you have going there……’cept for the caterpillar πŸ˜€

    πŸ˜€ πŸ˜€

    Your just jealous Nigel, I’ll send you a signed copy πŸ˜€

  • Nigel Pugh

    Member
    22 June 2011 at 21:16
    quote Martin Cole:

    quote Nigel Pugh:

    Sorry nothing to do with this thread but Martin that is a bit of a Clooney look you have going there……’cept for the caterpillar πŸ˜€

    πŸ˜€ πŸ˜€

    Your just jealous Nigel, I’ll send you a signed copy πŸ˜€

    Martino I will expect delivery sometime next week and I will stick it on my office wall so be sure to send or I will complain to the mods πŸ˜‰

  • Martin Cole

    Member
    22 June 2011 at 21:43
    quote Nigel Pugh:

    quote Martin Cole:

    quote Nigel Pugh:

    Sorry nothing to do with this thread but Martin that is a bit of a Clooney look you have going there……’cept for the caterpillar πŸ˜€

    πŸ˜€ πŸ˜€

    Your just jealous Nigel, I’ll send you a signed copy πŸ˜€

    Martino I will expect delivery sometime next week and I will stick it on my office wall so be sure to send or I will complain to the mods πŸ˜‰

    .

    On it’s way up Nige, I’ll send an A4 and 4 passport size ones :lol1:

  • Nick Tunstill

    Member
    23 June 2011 at 11:13

    The sign is 2000mm x 1000mm, I will go for the lamination, I have tried on some small samples and it is definitely more manageable when laminated.

    Thanks for all the help.

    Cheers

    Nick

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