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  • Konica biz hub C550

    Posted by Dan Osterbery on 12 June 2009 at 10:25

    Hi Guys,
    does anybody have this printer? We are thinking about producing our own digital flyers as we are subbing out so many jobs on a daily basis and a sales rep recommended this machine?

    cheers

    Dan

    Tim Painter replied 16 years, 6 months ago 5 Members · 8 Replies
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  • David Rowland

    Member
    12 June 2009 at 11:49

    i have the C350, the older one, its done thousands of prints now.

    Its a great bit of kit but needs to be on a maintenance contract and paying clicks (cost per page) to make it worth while, do you have a busy office? If not then look at something else.

  • Andrew Blackett

    Member
    12 June 2009 at 12:03

    Snap, we’ve just had our C350 installed last week. I’d agree it needs to be on a maintenance contract per click. Its already had replacement imaging units on the yellow and magenta and 2 call outs to replace parts. Would of been costly otherwise!

    Andy

  • Dan Osterbery

    Member
    12 June 2009 at 12:13

    we are intending to use for digital printing, flyers, biz cards, folders etc. we have been subbing out loads, and this is what they use, and I have found a dealer over here. What do you use them for just copying?

    cheers
    Dan

  • David Rowland

    Member
    12 June 2009 at 14:03

    don’t u mean C251? the 350 is over 2 years old

    i think the 500’s series is the production version? i dont remember. I heard it was good, you must judge the output before you do it.

    I have used Xerox DC12 in the past for litho quality printing, but the Xerox 3535 was okay but didn’t use toner oil, more matt finish, the DC12 was fantastic but can break down weekly and Xerox was always in, the machine was in daily use 9-5 each day.

  • Nigel Hindley

    Member
    12 June 2009 at 18:11

    We have a Biz hub 350 and while its OK we were lied to about what it can and cant do so don’t listen to what the salesmen say!

    What you need to be aware of is these machines don’t print full bleed so you will not get full a5 or a4 etc unless you print on the next size up and if you do that then you wont be competitive on price, we have found on the 350 that getting it register properly when printing 2 sides is near impossible.

    Ask to see it in operation ask to see it print 2 sided and make sure they show you on the machine you are getting without a firey if you are not getting a firey with it. The first they say when you complain about the above is well you need a firey which cost thousands. Hopefully these machines you are looking at may be better.

    Good luck ask lots questions get answers in writing we were completely mi-sold our machine!

  • David Rowland

    Member
    12 June 2009 at 19:00

    Nigel, well the Xerox’s are like that but on the DC12 you had to use the bypass tray to feed SRA3 paper and then you can trim it down on a guilotine. But the prints will not be 100% the same position on sheet after sheet. I am not aware of a laser that will print to the edge of a sheet

  • Nigel Hindley

    Member
    12 June 2009 at 21:24
    quote Dave Rowland:

    Nigel, well the Xerox’s are like that but on the DC12 you had to use the bypass tray to feed SRA3 paper and then you can trim it down on a guilotine. But the prints will not be 100% the same position on sheet after sheet. I am not aware of a laser that will print to the edge of a sheet

    Hi Dave,

    I know that there are no laser printers that print to the edge ………….now – but 5 years ago when i bought the machine I didnt know but was told it did, was also told two sides no problem. 12k down the drain (hot)

    We now sell full colour litho print and sell our print retail (in large quantities) cheaper than the click per page maintenace fee and we own the machine. Never again.

    Not really knocking the machine just the salesmen!

  • Tim Painter

    Member
    12 June 2009 at 22:17

    You never print to the edge even on a litho press.
    You print on oversized sheets such as SRA4, SRA3 and trim.
    If you printed to the edge you would waste more toner and also have print on the sheet edges.

    Dave the DC12 is getting very aged I think now.

    I think a lot of the smaller units are not real production machines capable of covering all the bases such as heavier card stock.

    Dan I think you need to look seriously at what volume you are outsourcing and all the associated kit such as guillotine and maybe a folding machine.

    Tim.

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