Keencut, Evolution 2 cutter + bench feedback please?

[Stuart Drynan]

We currently have the one with the lift up rollers and clamp on it.. (can not remember what one it is tho)

and its a good bit of kit.

RH sell them im sure 🙂

[Gary Birch]

We got ours here www:thebigprintercompany.co.uk

No complaints

[Adrian Hewson]

Got ours from Robert Horne

Had it about 3 years with the bench but our guys dont rate and do not use it , bit of a waste

[Robert Lambie]

its actually very good for cutting vinyls and the like. i think you would need a straight angle guide on the table though. maybe there is one and its just not on that demo model i used… i was pretty much doing it by eye as it didnt have to be accurate. i say that because there is one in Robert Hornes demo suit in Glasgow so they do sell them. its very easy to use and fast! that said, i ONLY cut vinyl on it.

[Adrian Hewson]

Rob my guys complain they spend more time changing blades than cutting anything. With two summa S160t this has turned into useless kit for us

[Stuart Drynan]

only use we have for it is cutting lorry panels down 🙂

At 8ft a drop it makes mince meat of the cuttting times..

IF you have a use for it then its a very useful tool.. if not then its an expensive straight edge 🙂

[Peter Munday]

I plan to use it for cutting banners, posters and vinyl plus the odd bit of foam.
Just seems to be a bit pricey and all the suppliers don’t seem to be able to move much on the price.

Peter

[Robert Lambie]

quote Stuart Drynan:

only use we have for it is cutting lorry panels down 🙂
At 8ft a drop it makes mince meat of the cuttting times..

This is exactly what i was thinking about when using it. trimming up truck panels but also roll-up stand panels.

Adrian, i used it over 3 weeks at Robert Horne. everything was done by eye and only on vinyl. but i never changed the blade once, so cant really comment on how quick to change mate.

we have the Excalibur and it only gets used for cutting Lots of correx and the odd bit of foamex. other wise we use wall saw or guillotine. so yes i can see where you may render it idle if you have other sources for cutting. but for me it was long cuts on vinyl and roll up media i was thinking on.

you have one, i just messed around with one, so you are probably right Adrian in it maybe slow to change a blade, but i think i could live with that for fast accurate cut panels.

or do you mean its a screw driver two man job? 😕 :lol1: :lol1:

[Adrian Hewson]

Rob we only really used it for foamex it was meant to work for speed, it only takes a few secs to change blade but

We have 8ft by 4ft laser cutter
We have 10ft by 5ft Wall saw
We have cnc router but

It might be good for cutting vinyl but thats some price, get a straight edge and get on with it

My thruppenceworth

[Robert Lambie]

quote Adrian Hewson:

It might be good for cutting vinyl but thats some price, get a straight edge and get on with it

:lol1: i do see where your coming from mate, but long 8ft+ prints can tend to slide off using hand held straight edges.
truck wraps with 12 drops, makes 48 cuts 104 inches long for one guy, then 48 horizontal cuts, can mean allot of inaccurate cuts never mind some finger tips lost in process. :lol1: :lol1:

i just think this was a pretty good tool for speeding up the job and bettering the quality, whilst keep H&S at bay. i dont recall high quotes, but then again i wasnt asking for the table itself, but i did want one 3m long.

[Peter Munday]

Rob the price for the 3.1m bench and cutter is coming in at £1326.50 and that is a lot of money for a cutter. The more I look into it there seems to be a cartel going on here as all the suppliers are not prepared to move on the price.

Peter

[Robert Lambie]

quote Peter Munday:

Rob the price for the 3.1m bench and cutter is coming in at £1326.50 and that is a lot of money for a cutter. The more I look into it there seems to be a cartel going on here as all the suppliers are not prepared to move on the price.

Peter

As I said, I was only asking about the cutter, not the table. so I cannot comment on that price, but yes i would say THAT price is high. but then again, i think our excalibar was around that some years back now.

as for budging on price. again i agree 100% that price is high for a cutter. but i cannot knock ALL suppliers not budging on price, sticking to their guns and all that… ok its not exactly the same thing, but i am for ever telling sign makers on here and off line, "do not be driven down on price" because the guy down the road is doing it cheaper.

personally, ide buy the cutter and make my own table. probably customise it a bit better too. you will save a good bit i recon.

[Stuart Drynan]

Make a bench..

I will upload a picture of what we have done later.

Think ours cost around the £600 mark.. (not 100% on that tho)
We built the table ourselfs for under £150…

It has taken cutting our panels down from two guys, about 2 hours to one guy in 40 mins…

and as rob said… loss if finger tips has gone 🙂 always a bonus 🙂

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[Robert Lambie]

yep, thats exactly what i had in mind stuart. thanks for the picture mate….

we already have various similar built tables in our place. 1inch sheet of MDF to help keep the table true flat, on top of 3×2 framing & legs. 10ft by 4ft table costs about £40-£50 pound is is more stable. a rebate of 5mm at one side for the cutter and your done.

[Stuart Drynan]

deff dose the job for us BUT thats because its been bought for that job in mind..

IF it was just there as a day to day thing, it would not really be used that much..

We made ours extra strong due to it holding loads of vinyl.. at any one time we can have up to 20 boxes under there, that was taken at the end of a job run last week 🙂

[Adrian Hewson]

Here is ours on two of the benches joined together giving us an 8ft by 8ft working space as you can its a geat table but spoilt by the cutter which gets in our way doing other jobs. We hav ethe self healing mats on this table to allow cuts to be done

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[Nick Eccles]

We use a Stainless Straight Edge & “Cut Coaster” for cutting large Vinyl Runs, we also use it for Correx and Foam Board… We got pretty accurate cuts, When cutting up long runs of print & cut stickers I using masking tapoe to fix it to the bench.

[David Hammond]

I’ve got both the cutter and the bench.

It’s ideal for what I use it for. Trimming posters, banners, roll ups, etc.

I’ve two brackets on the wall so hang the roll of the take up unit on them, and then pull the print across the bench to trim.

If the cutter is mounted on the edge of the bench it can be swung down and out of the way to give you a flat bench area.

The bench… I can’t rave about. The instructions say don’t over tighten the brackets, but I’ve since found the cross bars begin to slide down, and it means dismantling the bench to tighten them up.

Take your time setting the bench and cutter up and your away.

On a side note, we did 57 A1 prints mounted to 5mm foam core. It was a doddle with Evo. We got price for direct to substate but they couldn’t get the A1 boards in, and refused to print on oversized boards and cut down, because they didn’t have something like the Evo.