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ive just joined the cadet club
yes today i spent a shed load of munny and joined the ever growing cadet club, first id like to say thanks to you all who gave advice when needed and also a big thanks to rob who pointed me in the right direction 😀 😀
expect loads of questions in the near future
roffs
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hi roffs 😀
i have joined the club cadet too….just got mine running today 😀
nik
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Well done.
I dont think you will look back ………………..
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well done Roy…
ill not go into the usual nonsense, just get your self a nice, competetitive price structure & keep to it. other than that, you have a great machine!!!! -
Congrats Roy…
Question.. The Cadets are Versa Camms converted to Full Solvent, Correct? When I was trying to see If I could buy a cadet in the states, i kinda stumbled on to info suggestiong this.
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thanks guys 😀 😀 😀 😀
wwwwwwooooooooooooo
cant wait, got a shed load of jobs lined up for it just today and loads of ideas to promote the thing
( so I’m having a few bevies to celebrate )
Roffs
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Good choice – I thinks it’s a brilliant machine too. 😀
Should we form a Cadet users group :lol1:
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I thought this was the Cadet users group, I mean everyone here uses Cadets/Grenadiers, Europoint and Oracle vinyl… so u can see the power of the forum!
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quote Dave Rowland:I thought this was the Cadet users group, I mean everyone here uses Cadets
nope you must be reading a different forum dave….. 😀 i thought the jv3 would be in top flight 😉
nik
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i am actually a member of JV3 user group nik 😉
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quote Dave Rowland:i am actually a member of JV3 user group nik 😉
really! we would never have known. 😮 :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:
i actually looked at jv3 too mate, but the contour cut on the grenadeir swung it for me.
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Well done roy and nic . I dont think you’ll be disappointed. Just remember to run a full colour print at least every other day, or you will cause problems. Drying ink in the tubes, drying ink in the heads…………………………………………………Also dont be tempted to buy cr@p media. I have found cheaper media doesnt like being heated that much and tends to buckle causing it to buckle and “pucker up” which then results in the heads striking the vinyl. NOT GOOD.Enough of the doom and gloom.Best of luck with the new toys
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quote valegraphics:Well done roy and nic . I dont think you’ll be disappointed. Just remember to run a full colour print at least every other day, or you will cause problems. Drying ink in the tubes, drying ink in the heads…………………………………………………Also dont be tempted to buy cr@p media. I have found cheaper media doesnt like being heated that much and tends to buckle causing it to buckle and “pucker up” which then results in the heads striking the vinyl. NOT GOOD.Enough of the doom and gloom.Best of luck with the new toys
MATTEvery other day? buckling? Dry ink in tubes? should have bought a JV3! 😉
Only had one head strike, that was me printing on banner material with the head at it’s lowest height setting.Cheap media isn’t too much of an issue, we try and only buy media that is profiled or wasting our time.
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quote Dave Rowland:Cheap media isn’t too much of an issue, we try and only buy media that is profiled or wasting our time.
fair enough…but you dont have a cadet so why reply to a cadet post? 😕
nik
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nik, i didnt… the jv3 handles media very well
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i dont think its the machine handling the media well dave, is it not how the media performs? cheap stuff will buckle and react different to quality media regardless of machine. if your using decent material then there shouldnt be any reason why you would have problems?
head strikes can happen for a many reasons, in high medium or low settings, not just cheap media buckling etc… 😕 -
ok. but I am not cadet qualified.. not used one. But I am just saying what the JV3 does (same machine, just slightly different).
Currently using Imageperfect media from Spandex (its cheap), it does use a great pre-heat or print-heat, pretty medium heat around 40s. However it is a lot to do with storing the media in a nice warm area when not in use.Buckling only happens when the media has been inserted in the machine, the “print”-heater raises the tempreture from warm to hot and then it waves under the print head, as that first bit hasn’t been ‘pre-heated’ softly then you get large buckles. So the actual media is softly warmed then brought to tempreture and it doesn’t suffer from buckles when printing normally.
Anyway, the JV3 is a solvent printer, designed to print on cheap materials. Does a cadet/grenadier have 20-30 pinch grip rollers holding the media? Still yet to find that out? I did take samples away from Sign UK 03-04? of the Grenadier, certainly considered it but the JV3 was better handling as we printed banners practically non-stop.
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quote :Does a cadet/grenadier have 20-30 pinch grip rollers holding the media? Still yet to find that out?no it does not and no it cant because of the print then cut my epson 9500 has lots of rollers fine my soljet has 2 fine ( well 4 but only use 2 ) but i think the rippling of the media is down to the backing paper and humidity.
does anybody pre-condition the media by rolling out the first 1 mt over the heaters before printing as this allows the backing paper to sort its self outsorry of post well done roffs enjoy your new machine
chris
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ah, that explains it then, I had a feeling it was rollers as we dont suffer, media is held tight near the heaters. Sorry ROFFS, enjoy the machine, steep learning curve then once you get used to it, becomes an easier way of doing jobs!
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Well do Roy.
As has been said, preheating the media for a while before printing helps to settle out the wrinkles. Mine does it first thing when switched on and I’m using Uniform 3-5 year gloss white.
And keep up with the cleaning, it’ll help in the long run.
Steve
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cheers guys,
cleaning is a must with these machines i hear, so may i ask how often do you usually clean / flush (?) (?)
its a strange one but in the last 2 days i have got 12 jobs lined up for it already ( i can`t believe it !! )
lets hope its not a fluke
roffs
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if no printing being done at all for upto 3 days, i clean it.
takes only a few minutes on a friday night before closing up for weekend. thats it… if going away for a holiday or then a flush is required.
i know people use this one pointer time and time again as some sort of complaint about the achine, but i dont see why really.traditional sign writers clean their brushes after every colour. screen printers have all the cleaning that comes with that. we fit vinyls, but first we must clean regimentaly before starting a job, theres loads of things that require cleaning or things will go wrong. a 5 minute clean every friday afternoon is not my idea of a problem. 😀
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Well said rob, I run a medium clean once a week, clean round heads and capping station also once a week. If I’m leaving the machine for more than three days on the trot then a head soak with clamped tubes is called for. I checked the cleanliness tonight and was a bit shocked to find the waste tube from the pump had broken away and there was a small lake of red ink on the inside of the casing. AAAAAAAARRRRRGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
Even more of a pi$$ off, was i only replaced the pump about three weeks ago, due to poor print quality. Got a new one on the way. But i,ve got a big job lined up which needs putting off. How long are these pumps supposed to last rob? Or was this maybe a one off? MMMM not best pleased though
Rob on another subject. I dont see anyway of attaching a file onto my posts?(jpeg,eps, artwork, fonts etc) I have gold membership.
Cheers Matt
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On the JV3 the ink collects on the bottom edges of the print heads, these need to be cleaned up as they make the seal to the rubber rings when in standby, if it cannot make a good seal then your heads block.
We clean at the end of a long period of printing or every 1-2-3 days. It does make a huge difference to the machines print performance. Got access to two machines, one is cleaned everyday and the other (older) is cleaned 2-3 days or when someone remembers, you can guess which one is the better performer.
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matt, i think (could be wrong) the pumps a common thing to go… well not common but if there is a breakage then thats one of the few. thing is. ours went… guy arrived to fix it and i wish i watched. he took about 5 minutes and it was done. nothing much too it… he then gave the machine a check all over, running test and because it was so quickly done, he in tunr spoke with andrew, asking him this and that, changed settings and shown him some tips and stuff to look out for. so do yourself a favour. video the guy fixing it so you can get some parts in and do it yourself. wish i had :lol1: :lol1: seriously though… use the visit to your advatage, he will probably check the machine all over, but have things you wish to know or puzzles you wrote down and ask him about them. its amazing how much a chat with the tech guy face to face can help your day to day running.
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Hi Matt
What difference did you notice in print quality & what brought you to the conclusion that it was caused by the pump?
The reason I ask is that we are having major problems with print quality mainly banding, at first we thought it may be the heads, but not so sure now.
John
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pumps should not causing banding… the purpose of a pump is to suck ink through during a head clean, on a JV3 they are located under the waste rubber ring suckers, normally one per head. Your manual might have a method of cleaning the pumps as they could be clogged, on JV3 it is called a Disway Wash.
Pumps, Dampers and Heads are the common items to fail.
Do you get banding on all your media?
Is your test print ‘perfect’?
Any deflection in the test print?
Do you have service call out options?
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andrew has just corrected me, it was the damper on megenta that went on ours, not the pump. 😳 😉
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Apparently the pump was’nt priming or pulling waste away. Did this myself, your right rob it probably took me about 10-15mins once i could see how everything was situated. Only one screw to remove eased the pump away from the large sprocket, removed the tubes and just repeated eveything in reverse. Hey presto job done. Cookster. I also had pretty bad banding at the begining. This could be ink dried up in the tubes. Split one tube at the join, and pull about 5-10mil through. Replace the tube and repeat with the other tube. Clean manualy as book states. Run a heavy cleaning cycle on the menu on the machine. If all fails give the heads a soak in the solvent for maximum of 48 hrs(clamp waste tubes)Hope everything turns out ok.
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We think the dampers is blocking on ours… shall have to look at that.
Well done Matt, just a little note, we all changed our usernames to our real names, see here. I guess that is your company name ur using. -
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young manwhen he grows up he’ll be a Mimaki JV3 ain’t that right Dave 😀
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quote Andrew Boyle:5 entries found for cadet.
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young manwhen he grows up he’ll be a Mimaki JV3 ain’t that right Dave 😀
nop, he will be a Grenadeir! 😛
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Sorry Rob, I am afriad Andrews right .. Mimaki is in a division of their own! 😎
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Past it MimakiSorry Rob looked it up in Thesaurus
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a devision of what? hmmm your right mate… now get back in the bunkers and let our troops march on 😉 remember mimaki just cant “cut” it :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: you guys dont even have a uniform!
oh how we are dragging this topic way off course. 😕 😀 :lol1:
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oh.. how often do we actually cut? Prefer a machine that gets a good grip on the media, last thing we would want is Buckled prints for a court marshal
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quote Dave Rowland:oh.. how often do we actually cut? Prefer a machine that gets a good grip on the media, last thing we would want is Buckled prints for a court marshal
cut…. how often? never, coz you cant! 😉 :lol1:
we did ten thousand stickers on friday actually…. 😀quality media and a well run machine doesnt buckle, now you really do need to get a grip dave…. just let it go…. deep breaths :lol1:
sorry mate, just pulling your leg. 😉
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Thank’s everyone
Just to answer some of Matts questions, test prints OK, using the same media which is Hexis 5/7 & profiles which we have always had good results with up until now but were not getting banding on banner material or canvas.
Yesterday we performed a manual clean pulling cleaning solution through tubes with syringe & running the machine so the cleaner gets into the heads & have left it over night, will let you know if this has done the trick.
Again thanks for every ones help.
John
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