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  • David-Foster-

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    24 November 2010 at 08:12

    It says something about ‘open box package’. Why would software be opened?

    Can you not get hold of a previous version? The upgrade is only £166 on Amazon.

    The manual you get is a hard back book. Really nice but not really a full on help manual just a user guide.

  • Alan Drury

    Member
    24 November 2010 at 08:26

    I’ve understood that ‘open box’ means it is returned goods. I’ve lways thought of Amazon as being a good guide to what is reasonable priced and legal and genuine, start there to make your decision. Student versions are not strictly legal to use for commercial use ie signs for profit.
    Alan D

  • Gerry Wheeler

    Member
    24 November 2010 at 09:02

    It is not a student version but full version without the manual – well that’s what they replied when I emailed to check these precise points and the licence type is shown as ‘standard’ not ‘Edu’. Student versions are much cheaper than this elsewhere (c£80) and as you say are not to be used commercially.
    Full upgrade and support is also included too with this package. Their full price is c£285 for this package without the current promo.
    I have one on order so will let you know when it arrives. The ordering was secure and the response to both my enquiry and order quick and efficient too. They are an NHS/Gov’t supplier too.
    Not everything that is cheap is bad – I hope I don’t have to eat my words!

    Gerry

  • Gerry Wheeler

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    29 November 2010 at 18:57

    You might recall that I ordered a copy of this full version Corel Draw X5 from Zoom4U last Tuesday. Very cheap! The delivery was quoted as 1 – 5 working days.

    Well, it arrived today and it’s loaded and working fine.

    It is a full version of Corel Draw X5 Graphic Suite with single user licence. It is a full version on DVD (as normal) with complete registration code, on line manual (no hard copy), new fonts, clip art etc exactly as expected and advertised elsewhere for a good hundred quid more at least.

    Ordering was very simple. I had emailed a qu. first (about it being a full version) and got a reply in 1/2hr. I ordered online securely and my order was confirmed. I then tracked my order through their system on the web site under my a/c and then asked a second qu. which was answered in 2 hrs. On Friday I got shipping confirmation by email and the disc arrived today at 10am. inside the 5 working days and trouble free.

    I know one or two of you had your doubts – so did I- but if you want the latest full version of Corel Draw X5 with all the bells and whistles but no hard copy manual then at £199 you cannot be robbed and the service from Zoom4U is tremendous to say the least. They also do CDX4 for £179 and Adobe stuff too so I would put up a link and watch out for their special offers.

    Highly recommended. (And no I am not employed by them 😀 )

    Gerry

  • Michael Hartley

    Member
    20 December 2010 at 02:04

    The "fULL" version is what’s called OEM. There are some limitations to it, although most will never see them. Some programs, and stuff programs do, are not compatable with anything except the "Full Retail" version. Example; Cutting Master’s contour Cut feature will not work with the full/OEM version, but load the retail version, and it works great. Don’t ask me why, but I can attest to it, and it states it right there in the manual.

  • Alan Drury

    Member
    20 December 2010 at 08:23

    Student versions and OEM may not have VBA. This required for the cutting utilities and any other macros.
    Alan D

  • Gerry Wheeler

    Member
    20 December 2010 at 08:59

    …but this is not a student or OEM part version it is complete. It installed superbly, runs very well with Summa and Winplot, their macros have installed too and best of all it has VBA! What do you know….not only that but it has VSTA too, the successor to VBA.
    And all for a measley £199 if the special offer is still going strong and with superb service thrown in as a bonus!
    Bargain eh?

    Sometimes you don’t have to pay through the nose in rip-off Britain.

  • Alan Drury

    Member
    20 December 2010 at 10:25

    Gerry I reckon you’ve had a result. My post was for information, not all of the ‘super deals’ on the net are that super when you read the fine print or worse still you don’t find out until it’s too late.
    Alan D

  • David Rowland

    Member
    20 December 2010 at 10:44

    VBA is used with Graphtec’s to run the macros but I cannot confirm if that it "allows" it to run without VBA (like compiled code)

    However, the good news is there is now a Student / Home edition of the product for those who live at home and don’t run a business, so ideal if u want to live at home and have one in the office at work 😉

    http://coreldraw.com/blogs/gerard/archi … te-x5.aspx

  • David-Foster-

    Member
    20 December 2010 at 14:40

    The good news is that the Home & Student version has 3 licenses! The bad news is…

    "The biggest difference compared to CorelDRAW Graphics Suite X5 are that Home & Student Suite X5 does not include VBA/ VSTA or Macro support, and some more advanced features a professional user would need are not available."

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    20 December 2010 at 15:42
    quote David-Foster-:

    The good news is that the Home & Student version has 3 licenses! The bad news is…

    “The biggest difference compared to CorelDRAW Graphics Suite X5 are that Home & Student Suite X5 does not include VBA/ VSTA or Macro support, and some more advanced features a professional user would need are not available.”

    such as?

    i just bought a cheap (hi spec but used) laptop to use at home so i can do a bit in the evenings, i couldn’t install my spare XP pro as not compatible so bought a redundant win7 from the pc shop, nice… however, my corel12 wasn’t compatible so i needed X5, as a very quick fix i grabbed the student version (after all, my lad will use it for his graphics coursework, and being xmas i’m skint!),

    i’ve only had it loaded since last night and i can’t see anything obvious that i can’t do, in fact, on the contrary, it makes pdfs better and saves much more efficiently, despite this laptop being half as fast as my pc!

    i’ll still use 12 on the workshop pc as thats xp pro and 12 works fine for me, not to mention i’ve no summa plug in the winplot / X5 yet anyways.

    I personally am just playing with it with a view to seeing what it’ll do for me that 12 won’t, I imagine I’ll upgrade the proper way if i see real benefits to doing so, otherwise it’ll just be a home and student thing for the time being.

  • Alan Drury

    Member
    20 December 2010 at 16:57

    From what I understand VBA is required for Winplot to install into Corel in as much as the cutting from Corel is automated, you press the button and it loads ready to cut. Winplot can be stand alone though and will import an AI file so you can use it that way. X5 has altered the way AI versions are saves so if exporting from X5 use 8 or lower.
    I’m not sure that Cutting Master is standalone so importing an AI or EPS may not be an option. Don’t know about Fine Cut or Rolands offering.

    Alan D

  • David Rowland

    Member
    20 December 2010 at 17:27

    one feature i like in later versions like X5 is around the help menu area, you can get Corel to highlight new features so u can see the real difference between apps.

    Without a doubt X3 to X5 has loads of changes, expecially the colour management but none of us want Corel to change too much

  • Alan Drury

    Member
    20 December 2010 at 17:49

    Agree Dave, we as users want to see improvements, change where necessary but not change for changes sake. I want to use new software straight away, not hunt for the new position of a well used feature.
    Alan D

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    20 December 2010 at 20:35
    quote Alan Drury:

    From what I understand VBA is required for Winplot to install into Corel in as much as the cutting from Corel is automated, you press the button and it loads ready to cut. Winplot can be stand alone though and will import an AI file so you can use it that way. X5 has altered the way AI versions are saves so if exporting from X5 use 8 or lower.
    I’m not sure that Cutting Master is standalone so importing an AI or EPS may not be an option. Don’t know about Fine Cut or Rolands offering.

    Alan D

    the first corel i bought when i first started was a student version of 12, i knew no better then and eventually replaced it with a full copy, i honestly couldn’t spot any differences, however, both copies allowed winplot to install the plug in, it’s not a prob as i’m not trying to cut with it, it’s useful as a tool to import later ai files and export in 12 so i can work with it. i like it so far and will prob upgrade fairly soon at this rate.

  • Alan Drury

    Member
    21 December 2010 at 09:34

    X5 is a vastly more updated version to V12 from contours now being beziers and straight lines to better import and export filters to colour management. Put X5 on a Windows 7 box and it gets better still. Much of improvement is also behind the scenes, you may not see much superficial change but it is there.
    The way I rank the versions (as a user for sign making applications) V12 = very good – X3 = great improvement over V12 – X4 = modest improvement over X3 – X5 modest improvement over X4 but import filters better – X5 over V12 = well worth upgrade and especially if on W7 OS.
    Alan D

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    21 December 2010 at 10:22
    quote Alan Drury:

    X5 is a vastly more updated version to V12 from contours now being beziers and straight lines to better import and export filters to colour management. Put X5 on a Windows 7 box and it gets better still. Much of improvement is also behind the scenes, you may not see much superficial change but it is there.
    The way I rank the versions (as a user for sign making applications) V12 = very good – X3 = great improvement over V12 – X4 = modest improvement over X3 – X5 modest improvement over X4 but import filters better – X5 over V12 = well worth upgrade and especially if on W7 OS.
    Alan D

    cheers Alan,

    i ignored X3 and 4 but am beginning to see the benefits of X5 already, just the import export filters alone are a huge improvement, this laptop runs widows7 but the main pc in the workshop is still xp pro, i might upgrade the workshop one and then get the proper X5 in there, the pc is very very fast and would run great with win7, makes sense to upgrade as pennies allow.

    Hugh

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