is it possible to get vinyl to stick to canvas?

[Robert Lambie]

i would say no mate… not a chance. 😕

[Derek Heron]

Thanks rob the only thing i have seen which sticks to canvas was the lp sleeve(thin lizzy) painted on the back of a havasack at school
Derek

[Robert Lambie]

you can print direct to canvas… we bought some a couple of months back from grafityp. works really well…

[Martin Cole]

quote Derek Heron:

Hi all
is it possible to get vinyl to stick to canvas
customer with boat wants name etc on what he calls spray panels these are canvas same construction as banners ie hemmed and eyed
would truck vinyl stick. any ideas

Derek

Definate no no! Derek

I do a lot of boat names, and have often been asked the same as you for spray panels, customer bought one in once to try..without success.

[David Rogers]

You could maybe vinyl mask & spray them.

Dave

[Derek Heron]

thanks guys
the mask and spray sounds the best way
what paint would you suggest dave

Derek

[David Rogers]

http://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=19538

would just use bog standard metallic car paints from Halfrauds.

Metallic is more opaque because of the flakes – means less required – less bleeding etc.

benefit is it’s UV & water proof – well it is car paint.

Maybe try a local screenprinter to see if they have any of that ‘rubbery’ fabric ink if you fancy painting it on. (I’ve never tried this)

Dave

[Nicola McIntosh]

i wouldnt use ordinary spray paint, especially if its going to be in the water…it will eventually all come off, a two pack ink heated is the only way to stop it coming off nylobag or nylotex from sericol is what i use 😀

nik

[Brian Little]

quote Derek Heron:

thanks guys
the mask and spray sounds the best way
what paint would you suggest dave

Derek

… dereck take daves advice as i did it works a treet… i tried it out on a few old blinds id aqquired .just have to do the obvious and make sure that its well stuck down . Oh and dont know if dave has said in his post and to save me looking back… use mettalics …dont know why but they dont seem to bleed as much

[Nicola McIntosh]

quote brian little:

dereck take daves advice as i did it works a treet… i tried it out on a few old blinds id aqquired .just have to do the obvious

that will work brian if the blinds or any material are not exposed to the elements specially water…..spray paint is for metals and fabrics need the proper ink to make it stick to it…… 😕

nik

[Brian Little]

yep your right nik of course ….the ones i did were in a hairdressers so no prob there 😕

[Jamie Wood]

I did some nylon bags using cut stencil with a vinyl spray paint which
I got from Halfords. These went up Mount Everest on an expedition & worked great. The party made it up to the summit, and I had no come back
on the paint flaking off, so I guess it may be worth trying something similar.

Cheers,
Jamie.

PS. I used the heavy stencil material which is normally used for sand blasting, as this was the only one I could get to stick to the bags without
the paint bleeding. Material from DoroTape, but haven’t got the phone number to hand. Number has been posted by John Childs in a recent post though. I can find it next week if you can’t find it before then.

[Nicola McIntosh]

quote Jamie Wood:

on the paint flaking off

its not the flaking off im referring too, the ink just fads through time and goes wishy washy….glad your nylon bags worked out ok for you jamie 😀

nik

[Jamie Wood]

Hi Nik,

We also used to use Nylobag from Sericol to print on paraglider sails, so
I agree that this is another possibility, as it usually sticks to pretty much anything as long as it’s properly cured, as you suggest.

Cheers,
Jamie.

[Nicola McIntosh]

quote Jamie Wood:

We also used to use Nylobag from Sericol to print on paraglider sails, so
I agree that this is another possibility, as it usually sticks to pretty much anything as long as it’s properly cured, as you suggest.

a possibility that does work!!!…its just when i hear folk say ‘yeh’ just use this or that’ when uve been in the screenprinting business for years, and dealing with major companys the print has to be spot on…..the practise of which never ever leaves you…. 😉

nik

[Jamie Wood]

Another one which I’ve just remembered is Marler Sac (showing my age now….), which did a similar job as NyloBag, but didn’t need a catalyst, so was easier to handle and had a longer shelf life. We also used to supply vinyl screen ink to a large sign maker, who thinned it and used it through
a compressed air spray gun to paint lorry sides. Would have thought that they could have bought paint for that, but usually it was in Pantone colours, so I guess that would be why.

Cheers,
Jamie.

[Nicola McIntosh]

quote Jamie Wood:

Another one which I’ve just remembered is Marler Sac (showing my age now….), which did a similar job as NyloBag

remember it well….in the days of marler purple direct stencils….ooooh 😕 the ones you got one shot at with the squeegy laying on the screen… 😀

im not even gonna mention crispy stencils…… 😮

nik

[Jamie Wood]

Arf! Aah, the memories of GreenStar & FiveStar 😕
I think you are wise not to mention crispy stencils. I’d forgotten
all about them!!

[Nicola McIntosh]

quote Jamie Wood:

Arf! Aah, the memories of GreenStar & FiveStar 😕
I think you are wise not to mention crispy stencils. I’d forgotten
all about them!!

thought youd find that in a distant forgetful memory…. 😮 i only did it a few times 🙄

thanks goodness for emulsions now eh!!….we all must have made cappilex thousands over the years with rolls of film at over £200 per roll….mad!!! specially when u can get a tub of emulsion now for around £60….. 😮

nik

[Jamie Wood]

I remember Coates coming in to demo their new fangled emulsion, and thinking bet it’s not as good as FiveStar. Aaaargh…seems like only yesterday.

Aaaaargh. (Again) 😥

[John Gregson]

Hi All,
Derek, Ive got some nylobag black if you want a sample and i’m in on saturday. If the splash thingy’s are nylon this is a 2 part ink and once mixed with catylist it has to be used within about 8 hrs as it goes off. Not sure about application onto canvas. Sericol prices roughly £40.00 1L tin + £12.00 0.2L catylist.

Cheers John