Ink wastage

[Chris Wool]

welcome to the site

so please tell use how i can get zero ink waste on my soljet pro2 which is the same as a grenadier.

chris

[John Thomson]

The only way to get zero ink wastage would be to collect each waste colour separately and divert it back into the cart or bulk ink system before it reached the waste bottle…….why this has never been done is probably down to the printer manufacturers desire to sell more ink than we actually print with.

John

[Peter Normington]

Welcome to the boards.
so tell us what product you are promoting reduces ink waste?
Peter

[David Rogers]

TBH – Say if I put through 8 litres of ink – I may end up with one in the tank over the course of a few months. Considering the value of the print I’ve produced and the hundreds of metres of media it’s printed losing £75 worth of ink is no biggie. Granted it’s be nice not to waste it – but if this ‘introduction’ is some sort of marketing ploy as you are divulging nothing as to how it’s done count me out 🙂

[Glorianne Ellul Bonici]

Hi, Thanks for the welcomes 🙂 Apologies for not replying earlier but been extremely busy.
Let me explain briefly:
I started experimenting with my printer over 3 yrs ago…main reasons being to save money on ink and
keep the environmental friendly concept!
At first I did something in line with John’s reply – worked for a while but suffered major problems, to the
extent of having to replace 2 print heads, all dampers, 2 head adapters, tubing etc.
Since than I worked a lot on it! Changed parts, moved pumps/motors & replaced parts, some not easy to
explain, especially if we’re not using the same printer!
But if I can figure out the different ink wastage of all or most of the printers that need this extension, than I
can design & build a kit/carriage with a very reasonable price that will be easy for you to install and use
and will absolutely pay more if you had to buy the parts & do it yourself!
So start doing your calculations well (I save 20 liters of Ink yearly) & see if its worth for you 🙂
Help the environment while helping yourself 🙂
Regards
Glorianne

[David Rowland]

so are you saying that if you pump the ink back into the expansion tank is not the best way? maybe needs to go thru a stirring mechansim before it goes back into the tank

[Phill Fenton]

On the Cadet printer (Nee Versacam) four inks share two print heads. This means no matter what system you build after the heads to collect ink they will be mixed, – so this will not work on these machines.

You need a machine with separate print heads dedicated to each colour to make a workable system like this.

Sorry 🙁

[Chris Wool]

yes phill you are correct but the soljets and grenadiers have 6 heads and are all separate.

20 lts of ink waisted a year 😮 something wrong there mine is 2 lt tops i can’t remember the last time i did a power clean.
i presume they are using cheap inks.

[Roger Clements]

I’m neither technically minded ..or brave/stupid enough to start messing with my Sp-300 so I’ll just carry on ‘wasting’ ink…. 🙄

[David Rogers]

At under £70 per litre for quality solvent inks – and given how much sq/m that will cover…and the proportion (maybe 5%?) that goes in the waste.

It’s £3.50 saved per bottle…how long would any kit take to recover it?

And as a cadet user – stuffed.

Just a thought…

Any ink ‘salvage’ unit – this would obviously mean that you absolutely CANNOT put any cleaning solvent in the capping stations as recommended by the manufacturer during a manual cleaning cycle or it’ll ruin the ink you’ve so lovingly saved…

[David Rowland]

yes, you got to remember to shunt that off to waste bottle or ur stuffed.

i be honest i have had a lot of head cleans recently, within 2 months my bottles full and i know there is about £120s worth of wasted ink in there!

Sadly JV3-S series is 3 heads and the JV3-SP is 4, so if running in CMYK mode, you can save with such gadget.

[Glorianne Ellul Bonici]

quote Roger Clements:

I’m neither technically minded ..or brave/stupid enough to start messing with my Sp-300 so I’ll just carry on ‘wasting’ ink…. 🙄

Hi Roger,
Well, thank god there’s people who like to experiment, otherwise we’ll still using the Primitive woodblock printing. 🙂

Quote: “I will not say I failed 1000 times, I will say that I discovered 1000 ways that can cause Failure.” Thomas Alva Edison.

[Roger Clements]

quote Glorianne Ellul Bonici:

quote Roger Clements:

I’m neither technically minded ..or brave/stupid enough to start messing with my Sp-300 so I’ll just carry on ‘wasting’ ink…. 🙄

Hi Roger,
Well, thank god there’s people who like to experiment, otherwise we’ll still using the Primitive woodblock printing. 🙂

Quote: “I will not say I failed 1000 times, I will say that I discovered 1000 ways that can cause Failure.” Thomas Alva Edison.

Very true…but messing with the insides of ££££’s of machinery just to save a few £’s on ink …too risky in my book with the possible scenario of the machine down time to mess with and/or a big bill for Roland to put it right not to mention lost production time…….

Think I’ll leave this one to the ‘Thomas Edisons’ of the world… :lol1:….oh and welcome to UKSB

[Glorianne Ellul Bonici]

Yes you’re right … what can I tell you, I come from a big crazy family that we all like to experiment 🙂 My Brother Leonard last year bought a 2nd hand BMW Z3 from England & converted into an electric car, even I called him crazy, he’s been working with me as an accountant for 18 yrs & nothing to do with car:)
You can watch it on youtube although its in Maltese: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWtxRo6ZSTM