Ink Prices

[George Elsmore]

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I got 1ltr of activasol for £100+vat which was £40 cheaper than i used to get it!

give him a call see what deal you can get

[Robert Lambie]

hi Michael, yeh alls done at my end regarding the inks, will keep you all posted via the uksg hidden section when i hear more.

george, are these genuine inks though mate?

[George Elsmore]

they are genuine uniform inks Rob

[Michael Tremarco]

Thanks Guys.
Forgive my ignorance, but my carts biggest size is 440ml (I think) so is the litre for bulk ink systems? and is activasol just a brand of eco-sol max?

[George Elsmore]

Activasol is the full solvent uniform ink and yes 1 ltr is for bulk systems

[Peter Shaw]

Genuine or not they must not be put into a Versacamm that has not been converted.

You need Ecosol Max inks.

Try:

Spire Digital 01380 871962

Printmax 0870 0200 090

Peter

[Nick Minall]

And Europoint do them now

[Michael Tremarco]

Thanks chaps

[Robert Lambie]

quote George Elsmore:

they are genuine uniform inks Rob

ahhh sorry mate, i was thinking Roland… yeh price is round about the going rate on the activasol. (same ink i use, but not same supplier) 😀

[Peter Shaw]

quote :

Forgive my ignorance, but my carts biggest size is 440ml (I think) so is the litre for bulk ink systems? and is activasol just a brand of eco-sol max?

Forgiven.

1 litre is for bulk systems.

Activasol is a mild solvent ink from B & P for use in their converted printers. It was a clever innovation prior to Ecosol Max inks as Activasol was much more durable. Many of us do not think it is superior to EcoSol Max inks. I have "converted" my Cadet back and abandoned Activasol and the related problems it causes. I also believe that EcoSol Max has better more vivid colours. The 2 inks are not compatible and have completely different ICC profiles.

Peter

[Mike Grant]

I have bought genuine Ecosol-max 440ml carts from Spandex at £70 a cart only last week. Best price I have found.

[Nick Minall]

quote Mike Grant:

I have bought genuine Ecosol-max 440ml carts from Spandex at £70 a cart only last week. Best price I have found.

I have seen the ones from spandex, they would not say 100% that they were genuine, and Roland say I will not get my warranty if I use them.

Nick.

[Robert Lambie]

quote Nick Minall:

I have seen the ones from spandex, they would not say 100% that they were genuine, and Roland say I will not get my warranty if I use them.

that says it all nick! 😀 😉

[Peter Shaw]

quote :

I have seen the ones from spandex, they would not say 100% that they were genuine

This is a totally unsatisfactory situation to occur in our industry. I have always presumed that Roland would protect their name and brand, therefore I assume EcoSol Max is their copyright.

This should indicate that any non-genuine cartridges are labelled as to what they are. If they are labelled to say they are EcoSol Max from Roland, they are forgeries which I would have thought are as illegal as a forged Rolex watch.

If they are grey imported Roland cartridges, then Roland should not have a problem with the warranty.

Spandex needs to clarify exactly what they are selling.

Peter

[Nick Minall]

Well Roland do not know were Spandex are getting them from, I have not seen a cart yet and was hoping Mike Grant could shed some light on it for me.

Nick.

[Michael Tremarco]

Played safe and went with Printmax. At least you know there is no grey area and they are ‘genuine’ carts. Can you tell them apart (Spandex carts, if they are not genuine) from originals by sight? Or do you just hope they are genuine?

[Chris Wool]

quote :

Played safe and went with Printmax.

playing safe is buy from roland ain’t it ?

chris

[Michael Tremarco]

Quite right Chris, but they were the company that sold me the unit and if I can’t trust them, then it is truly a sorry state of affairs.

[Chris Wool]

that is sad 🙁

[Mike Grant]

The carts I have from Spandex are identical in every way to the ones I got from Granthams. Which in turn are identical (except in length) to the 220ml carts I got direct from Roland.

[Michael Tremarco]

I have received today my 220ml carts from Printmax. They do have Roland DG Corporation printed on them. However, the ones that came with the unit had ROLAND across the top in a yellow sticker which went the length of the cart. These do not. The other carts were 440ml whilst these are 220ml. Does your 220ml carts have the Roland yellow sticker across the top Mike?
Am I being unduly paranoid about getting genuine inks since this thread began? It’s just that to lose the warranty would be nightmare if you have not deliberately invalidated it.

[Nick Minall]

That’s good to hear, don’t know why can’t Spandex say that then?

Nick.

[Mike Grant]

I’ll have a good look over the carts tomorrow. I have no reason to think they are different, I can usually spot a difference at 50 paces, but until I read this thread…..well you never know, so I will check it out tomorrow.

[Mike Grant]

OK, good news the carts are identical in every way even down to the Japanese characters printed on the labels. The only extra stickers on the carts are Spandex’s own stock sort code label wot-sits thingamajigs.

[Robert Lambie]

makes you wonder why the hell they dont just say "yeh they are 100% genuine Roland ink" ? 😕

thanks for clearing that up mike. much appreciated mate…

[Michael Tremarco]

Thanks Mike. I suppose the reason that the other carts had a Roland sticker on them was because they were from …er Roland 😳 🙂

[Nick Minall]

Thanks Mike, that’s a great help, not sure why Spandex could not just say that 😕

Nick.

[Warren Beard]

Do you think this has anything to do with the high prices of ink ? 😮

http://www.inkwatch.net/

[George Elsmore]

:rofl: