how do i make a website page from corel12 please?

[Dave Martin]

a jpeg would be better, check to make sure you save it 72dpi, is there no save for web function in corel?

As for size your ideally looking at around 780px wide or a max of 1004px i allow about 20px for nav bars etc.

Also you maybe making more work for her by sending out a pdf that has to be re-rendered, and then completely re-formatted to work for the web.

At most send all the text and images as separate files then a pdf just for layout idea purposes.

And tbh if she is designer let her design, i assume she does that job for a reason.

[Warren Beard]

Hi Hugh

Sorry can’t really help too much with your request but sounds like a lot of work to be doing and still have to get somebody else to upload and finish it off.

There have been a few discussions about this but it would probably have taken you the same amount of time to do the website yourself and then you also have complete control over it at any time.

I started with Frontpage and got an original 2nd user copy off ebay for about £40, it is so so easy to use even if you know absoutely nothing about web design as I did.

Sorry if I am just wasting your time typing this but it really is quick and easy, I can update my portfolio pictures in a matter of minutes or add special offers etc. It just seems like you are doing double work or having to pay somebody to do what you could be doing.

Ofcourse that’s if you have the time to do it and don’t mind paying out that extra cash.

If you want an online shop then that’s a different story 😉

Cheers

Warren

[Hugh Potter]

cheers Dave and Warren.

corel can ‘publish as pdf for web’ so i assumed it was usable!

i’ll give her a call and go from there. cheers.
Hugh

[John Gregson]

Use photoshop for your images, jpeg and gif, to get them right down in size, and then dreamweaver for layout and text. I wouldn’t use coreldraw to manipulate your images for a webpage.

Cheers John

[Tim Painter]

Hi Hugh

I recon the best bet would be to ask ‘Her’ not ‘Us’.

Tell her what you can do & provide to speed up the process.
Do a flow diagram of how you would like the site navigation like a family tree.
Do a few roughs of a layout if you have any ideas to throw at her.

I would personally say you could provider a rough for her to work the content you provide to.

Supply text copy just as a word doc with references as to what pages it relates to.

Provide images as jpeg with sensible names for easy reference to your rough out.

Just my 2p’s worth.

[Hugh Potter]

quote John Gregson:

Use photoshop for your images, jpeg and gif, to get them right down in size, and then dreamweaver for layout and text. I wouldn’t use coreldraw to manipulate your images for a webpage.

Cheers John

HI John,

i use neither of those programs, so needs to be corel, partially due to that i have the layouts, they’re the same as a hard copy brochure i print on demand, so i want some consistency, thanks though.

Tim.
as mentioned above i have the layout, was just trying to save her some work, but think i’ll have to go the jpeg / word doc route. it’s how we made the last one. this new site will do away with the old portfolio, there was just too much going on, so rather than that, there’s a home page, intro page, and about 12 pages of services ofered, each with a brief description, and showing a few examples. just a lot to put together using diferent files, so was trying to do it as one.

oh well, i’m sure i’ll get there. still have to do the other website yet !

been trying to call her for an hour now, so will just have to sit it out!

Hugh

[Warren Beard]

Hi Hugh

Please take this with a pinch of salt as I am no expert.

When I did my first website I had about 12 pages and it was a chore to upkeep (myself) and started looking cluttered and over-done. I tracked all my pages and some hardly ever got clicked on.

Most customers will simply go to the page they are interested in and there is a chance of missing a cross or up sell as they won’t see the other products, a picture tells a thousand words where a word tells one 😕 😛

I now only have 4 pages, Home, Gallery, Digital printing & contact page. It simplifies the site and makes it easier for somebody to look through without having to jump through dozens of pages (which they more than likely will not do) It makes the site simpler and easier and I have had many positive comments about my site (and no not from friends who will always lie 😉 ) but they were surprised it was done by an amateur.

Again I also suppose what you intend using your site for, if it’s just mainly for a portfolio so potential customers can see some of your work I would keep the pages to a minimum.

Like I said, I’m no pro and this is only from my experience.

Why do you not want to do it yourself?

Cheers

Warren

[Hugh Potter]

HI Warren,

why? being lazy! i’ll get it all done cheap anyways, usually costs me the odd set of mags or something!

re pages,

there’ll be a main page with ‘enter’ on it, leading into an intro page, with some basic info on the company, also on that page will be a link to the other pages, it is partially a portfolio, but also explains, briefly, the types of work I can do, there’s too much to cram it into a few pages. i think there’s about 12 pages of info in total.

my old site is simply a home page, which has portfolio and contact us links, the portfolio is hosted elsewhere, and while it served it’s original purpose, i found it to be lacking ne content ( we’ve lost the log in details!), as i’ve progressed, there’s a fair bit of work on there that i’m not particularly happy about showing now, and there was too much of it,

that said, looking at the hit reports, it has been showing a good amount of traffic (regularly exceeding bandwidth until I recently upgraded), with up to 500 individual hits per month, the portfolio has it’s own counters, and again had good viewing figures, but is down on the home page by about 50%.

so, by keeping everything in one site now, people should see what else i can do, rather than ignoring the portfolio. each link will be titled accordingly. there are a number of things i do which might not generally be considered part of the norm, short run busi card, letterheads and brochures made in house for eg, the clothing printing etc. hopefully these will now see more hits.

cheers.
Hugh

[Tobias Redig]

Depending on how she will build the site and which programs she will use it might be easier to just send her a single file of the layout and let her slice out what she needs in Photoshop, Illustrator or Fireworks. Might be other more applications out there that can export webslices, but those are the ones I’ve tried atleast.

[Tim Painter]

Hugh dump the Splash ‘Enter’ page you want to keep clicks down to a minimum splash pages are a bit old hat now I believe.

[Dave Martin]

quote Tim Painter:

Hugh dump the Splash ‘Enter’ page you want to keep clicks down to a minimum splash pages are a bit old hat now I believe.

Yep do not what ever you do, do this ^^.

Its just crap for SEO, also if most of your hits came from search engines be prepared for a bit of a dive, or make sure all your old pages link to new ones, or use the same file names.

[Hugh Potter]

SEO?

not sure what you mean?

what i’m now doing, is making a new set of files, one of the probs with the pdf was the pic quality, and the size of the file, so i’m now making the enter page the home page, with the links there, the new home page will simply replace the old home page (vitually the same as the old, just a different layout),

from the home page, the linnks will take you to ‘vehicles’, windows/glass, shops and commercial, etc etc, there’ll be about 10 linked pages, acting as a portfolio, each with some info.

for her use, i’m now going to take screen shots of the corel window, i can’t export to tif/jpeg as the file size is enormous (24mb), it means the images will be pretty much full size, and crisp.

the corel generated background is the same on each page, with the exception of the title,

each file i send will have the top half of the background shwoing the title, and the bottom, which she can stitch back together, a set of photos to go on there, a word doc containing the formatted text, and a pdf file to show how the layout goes.

she can then add the links etc, for this she’s going to do the same as the ‘mightybright’ website i have, whereby the links menu automatically slides up and down the edge of the page, making it easier for the user to go to the next page (as opposed to scrolling back up to the links menu).

hopefully this will all work, and be pretty easy to put back together.

yes?

i just wish there was an easy way to save the corel file to jpeg without the huge file size or loss of quality!

thanks.
Hugh

[Tim Painter]

SEO

Search Engine Optimization.

[Hugh Potter]

ok, got you, she’s a bit of a whizz wit the seo, i’m top of google if you put in signmaker and my local big towns, if i drop, she finds out why and puts me back up there!

gonna have to rethink all this, all the pic are different sizes, which means i have to exactly scale the page before taking the capture, grrr.

i could just send her all the pics, but they’ve been blended into each other to make it look smoother,

gonna finish on it now and leave it til tomorrow!

Hugh

[graffica]

Try http://www.pixresizer.com
A free download which cuts down the file size without loss of quality.

Chris A.

[Hugh Potter]

quote graffica:

Try http://www.pixresizer.com
A free download which cuts down the file size without loss of quality.

Chris A.

thank Chris, i have some digi camera software which can do that, it’s just a pain having to do them all this way after getting it look right in the first place!

thanks again.
Hugh

[JimmehF]

hi hugh, might have been easier to have a go at making a website using templates too, im not a coder but i use joomla to make my websites, heres one ive just done for a local sign company http://www.jamesfawcett.co.uk/signs nearly finished it just some better images and things to add. If you get stuck i can help you with yours and your images and things, im a student so work for cheap, or if you have a sticker printing machine im always after printed stickers!

cheers
james

[Peter Munday]

James just had a look at that site and was informed that it was a suspicious site and to leave.

Peter

[JimmehF]

hi, peter where did it say that?? Its not suspicious, but id love to know why it said that to you its something ill need to look at? Thanks
James

[Peter Munday]

James when you click on safety signs a warning comes up in my header bar to say that the site could be "Phishing" and to report it if it is.

Peter

[JimmehF]

ahhh, it might be the ebay plugin, it shows ebay content directly into his website, so it must thinkg that the signs page it trying to replicate ebay
thanks for telling me 🙂