High Volume Self adhesive labels

[Robert Lambie]

we still provide high volume stickers via our grenadier Phill.
how competitive we are i do not know, we dont do allot of it but still significant batches we put out periodically.

im not teh person to advise on this type of machinery but i know Jason at mediapoint in australia just purchased some impressive label printing equipment and i think did a bit of research into it too. so hopefully he can advise…

sorry, forgetting myself half way through my post :lol1:
your obviously then after a trade supplier of labels. rather than advice on machinery. 😀

[Jamie Wood]

We regularly do multiple 1000s on our Mimakis. Main thing to consider is the size and
how many meters it takes. We use a different pricing model for these type of jobs. I guess really, it depends on how busy you are. A take-up is a must for long run jobs.

[Kev Mayger]

Sounds like you need someone with a Gerber Edge. They are great for label runs.

Kev

[Jason Xuereb]

How big are these?

I’ve done runs of up to 800,000 labels using my wide format machines in the past.

We just finished a custom kiss cut finished on a rectangle in a run of 5000 for a client. We got the job because of time line and a custom die needing to be made using traditional methods.

I got the job turned around in about 24 hours. Used a full roll of media in 54" wide.

We did another job for 80,000 labels as well. I know these figures sound impossible but here is some proof.

Most of your problems will be in the finishing and how the customer wants them supplied and what equipment you have.

Hope that helps if you need anything else just shoot a reply.

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[Chris Wool]

work out what you would want to do it in house with your quality

ask a couple of trade suppliers for the same you may be suprised

or jason davis on here has a dedecated lable machine

the cadet can do it while you designing other stuff

[Steve McAdie]

I do a lot of labels on my cadet plus and while i’m not the cheapest I nearly always get comments on how much better the quality of mine are over cheaper options. I’d go for it on your cadet Phil.

[Robert Walker]

Along time ago I use to work at a flexo printers, your talking meters/sec for print lam and cut.

I still sub this type of work out to the place I use to work at, if you ask a flexo printer what the stock size of cutting form they have it will drop the price loads.

Last job they did for me was 5000 A5 full col labels printed onto a polypropylene with laminate and was only £170+vat as I used a stock cutter

I can pass on there info if you want but I’m sure there will be one closer to you

Robert

[Chris Windebank]

so what material does everyone use for waterproof stickers then if printing in house?

[Jamie Wood]

For bog standard labels, we use Metamark MDP – 100 micron.

[Chris Windebank]

have used that and MD5, used the matt paper one with polyester back from Grapityp but looking for a gloss poly, does it exist?

Sorry Phil, most stickers I ever do on printer is 500, after that most go out to Sovereign for silk screening

Be interested to find a good label supplier on the boards

[Denise Goodfellow]

We looked at a label printer at sign uk and festa. Prints the moves on to a all in one laminator and contour cutter and roller.

The time to print, lam and cut was really fast, but at a cost of close to £50k

Just doing a 5000 run on the Miimaki as we speak

[John Hughes]

We looked at this Denise and decided against it.

We now have a close working relationship with a specialist label printer for printing labels on a roll and pushing this side of the business.

We still produce small quantities on our Roland but a lot of customers require the larger batches on a roll.

John

[David Hammond]

We do 10 or 20k for on customer and sub it out to a flexi printer.

They come supplied on rolls of 100.

For smaller stuff where we can supply it on sheets or singular we would print in house.

Usually print them in blocks that will fit into our electric guillotine and cut down into singles.

Need to find an effective way to slit down a roll.

[Clive Martinez]

Hi David, I’ve often thought of getting an electric guillotine for this sort of work. Can you tell me a little more about the one you have…
Thanks

[David Hammond]

We have a digital set up for leaflets etc, so have a guilotine that can cut about 510mm square.

Iausually print at 500×500 blocks then trim it down off the roll to the registration marks, then stack and cut.

[Clive Martinez]

Hi David,

Can you recommend your guillotine? who manufactures it? what price range is it?

Thanks

[Jason Xuereb]

Doesn’t the adhesive gum up your blades on your guillotine?

[Jamie Wood]

quote Jason Xuereb:

Doesn’t the adhesive gum up your blades on your guillotine?

It does, but on our guillotine, we can hold the blade at the bottom of the cut, and use
a solvent to remove the excess glue.

[Clive Martinez]

Jason,
Did you cut all those labels with your self registering rotary cutter?
I wish the smaller version was still in production!

[David Hammond]

I’m sure we have an ideal guilotine. Will trim SrA2 down to SrA3.

I think we paid £1k for it, then had the first service done this year and the h&s inspection.

[Neil Fox]

Phill,
I often print SAV stickers for an international charity. They often get batches of 8000 stickers and these are batched up between 400 and 2000 at a time.

We do this at a competitive rate. I have a Roland VS 540 which allows to print and cut small sections of a long run at a time, which makes this a simple task, but you should be able to produce them for a decent rate.

Personally I would do them in house and see how cost effective it is. If you feel the tame taken is too much, then look for other alternatives.

The stickers I produce are around 85mm x 55mm, while the charities ones are 90mm x 85mm.

What size are the stickers you need to produce?

Neil

[Clive Martinez]

David, do you expirience any problems with the adhesive on the blades? What is the manufacturer of your guillotine?

Thanks

[David Hammond]

No problem with adhesive as I usually weed the vinyl before cutting, leaving a 10mm spacing between each sticker, and cut within that.

I think the manufacturer is ideal, I will check tomorrow.

[Jason Xuereb]

quote Clive Martinez:

Jason,
Did you cut all those labels with your self registering rotary cutter?
I wish the smaller version was still in production!

The job in the photo were cut on our Graphtecs for the kiss cut and then cut individually using our Fotoba cutters. It took about two days of cutting to get the job done.

[Jason Davies]

quote Chris Wool:

work out what you would want to do it in house with your quality

ask a couple of trade suppliers for the same you may be suprised

or jason davis on here has a dedecated lable machine

the cadet can do it while you designing other stuff

Just picked this up Chris, sorry for the late reply. I took Jason’s advice and bought a label printer from Primera straight to roll. Haven’t used it much as we have been to busy with other work.

[Andy Bailey]

HI do any of you use the perfcut method for making sheets of stickers from the roll on a versacamm? We us this for a neat uniform finish.