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  • help with CMYK numbers

    Posted by Michael Potter on 17 October 2008 at 23:53

    Hi all this is just a shot in the dark but I am desperate, so far I have printed about 2meters of smallish squares in varying hues but non are correct and I am completely stumped. I need to print the Mactac colour Pistachio it has a RAL number of 6019 which means nothing to me. Can anybody suggest what CMYK settings I should try.
    I know its a dumb question but printing is new to us and the learning curve is massive. We use a Gerber edge if that makes a difference.
    Many thanks
    Mike

    Shane Drew replied 17 years ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
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  • signemploy

    Member
    18 October 2008 at 04:32

    We use HEX E6F3A3 also CYMK 11,0,45,0 and RGB 230,243,163 for Pistachio,

    True RAL formulae are :

    6019

    CMYK 24,0,24,0

    or

    H.Lab 93,-33,25

    or

    HEX #C2FFC2

    or

    HSV 120,24,100

    or

    RGB 194,255,194

    or

    XYZ 68,87,64

    and

    Brightness 93%

    Hope this can help you

    Kym in Australia

  • David Rowland

    Member
    18 October 2008 at 13:05

    I just ran it through RAL C1 software by DTP Studio as I been doing a bit of work on RAL just lately.

    It is a little different to SignEmploy, where did you get those values from?

    With Gloss
    L: a*: b*: 81.42 -12.57 13.50
    H: L: C: 132.96 81.42 18.45

    Coated paper
    C: M: Y: K:
    35 0 40 0

    Uncoated paper
    C: M: Y: K:
    30 0 30 0

    without Gloss
    L: a*: b*: 80.42 -12.88 13.51
    H: L: C: 133.63 80.42 18.67

    Coated Paper (%)
    C: M: Y: K:
    35 0 40 0

    Uncoated Paper (%)
    C: M: Y: K:
    30 0 30 0

    Again, I always say this …. i have in past given values that are wrong, someone then screws up a large print… if in doubt get yourself a RAL chart, it is mainly used in European paint systems including the UK.

    The CMYK’s are actually ‘simulated’, the LAB values is what you should be entering as a spot colour replacement in the RIP and then using a named colour to print with. Then this is down to colour profiling and as with Pantone, RAL is just as hard to print.

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    18 October 2008 at 13:20

    Mike,

    From experience, Green and Orange shades are almost impossible to match with any certainty.

    I usually ignore the RAL colour guide, and just compare the colour to a cmyk pantone book.

    If you have a mactac sample, it will be easier, but end of the day, its going to be difficult to get a close match.

    I always tell my client that the process of digital print is vastly different to screen or offset, so comparisons will always be off, unless they want to pay my time to tweak it as best I can. Most will accept that close enough is near enough.

    I’ve got a RAL pdf chart if you want one. I’ll email it over to you anyway.

    Cheers
    Shane

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    18 October 2008 at 13:21

    Welcome Kym. Just noticed its your first post.

    Post something in the hello section, and tell us more about yourself.

    A photo would be nice too 😉

  • Michael Potter

    Member
    19 October 2008 at 22:03

    thanks everybody it’s only for bumper stickers for a local cafe. it’s just me and the wife being a little anal I guess. It probably sounds really corny but we just want to be the best that we can be.

    what are the lab numbers?? 😳 😳 😳

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    19 October 2008 at 22:57
    quote Michael Potter:

    we just want to be the best that we can be.

    don’t ever be embarrassed or apologize about that Mike.

    so much ‘near enough is good enough’ out there, its nice to find someone that is prepared to learn, at whatever age. Asking questions is the best way to do it too.

    😉

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