HELP!!! Reflective vinyl

[Alan Cooper]

Ali
Yes you can apply reflective vinyl (or ordinary vinyl) to correx.
I would lay it dry as correx is quite forgiving and most vinyls can be laid
down in that way.However, if you are laying down a solid background all over the sheet of correx then I would lay it wet. Hope that helps

Regards
Alan

[John Harding]

Yes as Alan said but if you’re doing large quantities what about screen print and then overlay the reflective bit as required.

John

[Jill Marie Welsh]

Yes I would have the corosigns screen printed and then lay on the reflective.
It’s thick to cut.
Do not apply wet.
It sticks like crap to a blanket, so be careful.
You’ll do just fine.
love….Jill

[Alison Falzon]

Thanks guys. I’ve used reflective before, but only on vans. I think I have to price it up for all options – i.e part screen print / all vinyl etc.

By the term "loads of boards", the actual figure is 400. (200 double sided), so he may have to wait a year or so before they’re finished! I’ll have to draught in the whole family to help me out!

On that note, does this change anyone’s opinion on the best way to do them?

[Lorraine Clinch]

Buy an Eze-Taper! :lol1:
Seriously though, you will get air bubbles down the grooves unless you are very careful, also if you lay dry & wonky you may tear the rfl. when lifting. I’d do it wet.

[Shane Drew]

Alison, I digi print directly to reflective all the time, so I don’t know why you can’t screen print it. Never heard that before.

I’d be screen printing 200 d/s boards definately. Its going to be double handling anyway, if you have to add the reflective too.

Vinyl will be an expensive option, and real estates don’t like paying too much at the best of times…

If you use 3M 180 reflective it is removeable and repositionalable, bit more expensive, but you’ll have less stuff ups which save you money in the long term.

Cheers

[Colin Aburrow]

Alison

3M’s used to do a screen print ink which is basically the reflective glass beads in a suspension fluid which you can screen print but cant remember the name or how bright it was.

Sorry I can’t be more specific but it might be worth contacting them to find out.

Colin

[Alison Falzon]

Sorry…..slight misunderstanding – I know very little about screenprinting, because I don’t do it myself – if they were to be screenprinted, I would have to sub it to someone else, but I just didn’t think reflective could be done by screenprinting
To do 400 boards in vinyl would take forever! And probably not be much quicker by getting part screened, and the rest overlayed with the reflective (you’ll know what I mean if you see the design!).
I’ve been at a loss really of the best way to go about it, and the possible options. The things that make it not straightforward (in my opinion) are the fact that they are not straight-edged, and that a substantial amount is to be in reflective.
In vinyl, each board takes a set amount of time, and the time spent doing each one is no quicker whether there’s 10 boards or 1000 (if you know what I mean). So part of me is left pondering whether the boards are actually do-able at all for a cost that isn’t ridiculous, or if the design should be changed completely, with the customer sweetly encouraged against the reflective! I already did tell them that reflective is much dearer than standard colours, but they seem quite adamant regardless!
…..the dilemma continues……

[Peter Munday]

Alison the way to do this job would be to cover both sides in reflective, screen print the rest of the design and then die-cut to shape. I would say you would not get much change out of £15:00 each!!!!

Peter

[Robert Berwick]

Alison,

(mod-edit) The only problem being the boards would need to be laminated as the glass beads that give the reflectivity are exposed.

Regards

Robert

Sorry – Didn’t think it would be allowed – hope no offence has been taken. I was only trying to help.

[Alison Falzon]

quote :

I would say you would not get much change out of £15:00 each!!!!

My thoughts exactly. It seems like a hell of a lot for estate agent boards!!

[Peter Normington]

Allison, give them an estimated price £30 each, which is about what you would need to charge to give you a fair profit? if they are still up for it then you can figure out how to do it.

Peter

PS do not apply reflective wet, for some reason it will not stay put,

[Alison Falzon]

£30 each – do you mean £30 per board (2 boards to each sign), or £30 for the 2?

[Peter Normington]

Alison,

whatever the the cost to you for the reflective, correx, vinyl/print, then cutting to shape, there is quite a lot involved, just make sure that your client wants to pay for something different, before doing all the hardwork, estate agents dont usually want to pay more than a few quid for a board. A few companies specialise in the boards, and putting them up etc. so your customer may think reflective is only a few pence more.
You may be trying to provide something that is not viable to the customer as they have no idea of the work and materials invoved, give them a price guide and see if they are still interested,

Peter

[Alison Falzon]

aaargh!
Right then…….we are now going to ditch the reflective, and have silver instead. Is it possible to screenprint silver?
If it is, then correct me if I’m wrong but that would probably be the best and most economical option??!

[Nicola McIntosh]

hi alison 😀

yes you can screenprint silver onto fluted boards, as i have done in the past 😀 bet your glad they ditched the reflective eh!! 😉

nik

[Alison Falzon]

I did try my best to discourage them (not to much avail though). The main influence that helped though was someone from the council telling them that they have to be careful where they put them as the reflective may breach planning regs!!

[Carol Davies]

Normally the best way to discourage them is
to tell them the price 😀

[Alison Falzon]

I tried that before – told them the price of reflective is TEN times dearer than the cost of normal vinyl!!

[Peter Normington]

So allison, they want to pay for a unique product, give them the price, and if they accept, sod the council and make yourself a few quid.

Peter