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having problems with vinyl & application tape help pleas
I am making some decals for Massey Ferguson and having some success thanks to help from the site. The text is 1.16" with a .1" outline and a decal with a lot of fine lines (the front three triangles one). Problems are weeding (absolute pain) the corners appear to be getting "stuck" and with the fine lines is a major problem. The edge of the cut (I think) is digging in which is causing me problems with the weeding and with the application tape. I put application tape down over decal and no grip wont lift any of the fine lines which is annoying to say the least not sure what is really causing the problem as is effecting most thing I try to lift all small. The outline text 0.1" thick refuses to lift with the tape as well.
Sorry if I sound like am gibbering but hard to describe in words.
Application tape is Rtape 4050 medium tac
Vinyl is Ultramark 5700 PremiumAny help most welcome. I would post picture of file but cant attach any here.
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9 Replies
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Don’t know if it’s much help but we only really use 4075 high tac and that has no problems lifting narrow lines etc but you do need to really squeegee the tape onto the vinyl hard in the first place and peel the backing off carefully.
Lee
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as Lee says mate, you need hi tac for an application involving small lines and text. Medium tac is primarily for larger graphics with a bigger area to ‘grab’.
How old is your blade. Anything fine I use a new blade for, perhaps even going from the standard 45 deg to a fine detail blade in my cutter.
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Like the others before me….hi tack tape should solve one problem, a new blade or checking to see if it’s rotating very freely in the holder is the other.
Might sound obvious (I REALLY apologise if it is) but are you doing it face down & peeling off the backing liner and not the other (harder) way.
I wouldn’t concider 0.1" (2.5mm) to be ‘fine’ under normal conditions as I’ve always bought hi-tack, for the extra couple of pounds it’s a more universal ‘tool’. I have been sent medium in error several times (from an ex-supplier)….went straight back.
Dave
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Micheal have you thought of weeding it once it has been applied, this sometimes makes it much easier to do.
Peter
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Hello thanks for replies
Am seriously thinking of getting hi tack for small stuff I have to do not worth the headpain.
Weeding when applied never actually thought of doing that, a new idea.
And yes for the record I was doing it the hard way but am still having problems with some stuff sticking to the application tape.
Some of the weeding problems have been solved by messing around with my setting for the blade. A slight improvement has also been from washing the vinyl before I put the tape on, probably obvious but I think finger prints were messing the adhesive up. also putting the small stuff through a laminator seemed to help some what. as did switching vinyl to Metamark, though I still have 300mtr or so of ultramark to use up.
again thanks for replies.
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Hi Micheal
I have been noticing problems with my (medium tac) tape sticking to vinyl recently, only since all the hot weather started. Maybe due to higher humidity I think. I don’t usually have a problem.
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Hi all not been on for a while.
Not sure if anyone has come up with this one before, but I find that if you place your graphics faced down and remove the backing paper from the application tape it brings practically everything off, if a piece of vinyl refuses to come away from the paper simple push it back down. I used to have many problems getting the graphics off but since using this method I have not had a problem. Give it a try and let me know
Mark
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That’s what I have started to do now and it helps to lift, still have problem pieces inside of P and R and small e, are a nuisance to get off.
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try using q-tape or polytape. I have had nothing but problems with r-tape in the past with the same type of problems even on big work.
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