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hammer drill question……..
Could anyone recommend a good sds cordless hammer drill? thanks :lol1:
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Makita 🙂
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I use Bosch 24v sds,15 min charge time, serves me well.
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mm i prefer my hilti 😀
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Wicks pro, pneumatic £149.00 with 3 year warranty.
Very impressed, also has rotatory stop, for light chiseling.Simon
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DeWalt, we have a 24 volt sds, goes through walls like a knife through butter, we swear by DeWalt (have 5 now and wouldn’t buy anything else).
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DeWalt rules however got a fair bit of Hilti too
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NuTool or Power Devil are the best !
(only joking)Mostly Bosch / Dewalt – it’s worth investing in something decent
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Sorry to put a dampener on all these brand names, but my husband is a contract carpenter, and he uses his cordless hammerdrill like there’s no tomorrow….so if you’re talking heavy usage then you might like to know the following…..
He has used many makes over the years, and he used to always go for the likes of Dewalt / Hilti / Makita for his cordless, BUT the last one he bought was a Bosch. It cost him peanuts compared to the Dewalt that his chippy partner has (which he keeps having problems with). It has lasted just as well, and doesn’t take long to charge. Even if he buys 2 a year, over 2 years it costs less than one of the bigger names, and we are talking constant daily heavy usage here.
The Bosch does the same job (as long as you make sure you get minimum 18 volt one). He said where technology has advanced over the years, when it comes to cordless hammerdrills, a lot of companies seem to be just charging for the name…
So there you go…..just thought I’d get his opinion for you before you go over-investing!
Ali
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thanks! 😎 did you get your traditional signwriting kit???
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I ordered some of it yesterday actually – I ordered the book, a a couple of 2112 brushes and some one shot. Then I can have a little dabble with that first before I go ahead and order the rest!
I’ll let you know how I get on with it (and probably keep badgering everyone with questions!). I should receive it in a couple of days…..
Ali
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cool! you’ll catch the paint bug!! once it gets you, theres no going back to vinyl!!
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dewalt here and very happy with it.
Also very important good drills.
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i know this thread is getting on a bit now, but here’s my two penneth worth,
i’ve been on both ends of the power tool market, years ago managing a powertool dept of a builder merchant, and later on, using them on sites,
without a doubt, i would reccomend ‘Metabo’ power tools, they aren’t your average cheap tool, and will out do everything except Elu which i would place on a level field, infact elu bought metabo to cash in on the product that was doing them so much damage !!
my old metabo 9.6v hammer/screwdriver is now nearly 12 years old, i’ve replaced about 3 batteries in that time (i have about 4 i keep going all the time) and it has never EVER let me down, i can go on screwing and drilling all day long !!!
Makita is an economic tool, use it for a year or two, throw it and buy another !
Hilti is heavy duty gear, fine for demolition and heavy work, but we’re drilling holes here right ?!
dewalt is another name for black and decker, i’ll say no more !!
I would liken Metabo to the power tool market, as i would ‘snap on’ in the automotive market.
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i’ll conceeed that dewalt, as well as other makes have come on a long way, but metabo is still the daddy !
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quote signsol:DeWalt, we have a 24 volt sds, goes through walls like a knife through butter, we swear by DeWalt (have 5 now and wouldn’t buy anything else).Tried everything. Dewalt is the king of tools for me too.
Black and Decker own dewalt true, but they are very different tools.
I have the Dewalt cordless hammer drill, cordless circular saw, cordless saw, cordless torch, cordless tin snips….. need I go on….
Fantastic tools, would not swap them for the world!!
Shane
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westcoastsignguy, that’s the one! That DeWalt is a faaaantaaastic tool!!!
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We have a Milwaukee (sounds like an indian name, you know like cowboys and indians) anyway ….. had it almost two years now …. its taken some bashing aswell over that time … used literally every working day for one reason or another ….. and its still alive and kicking.
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It will probably die tomorrow now Ive just typed this 😕
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quote Drag-On:I would liken Metabo to the power tool market, as i would ‘snap on’ in the automotive market.What? Overpriced rubbish with a garauntee that’s pretty much worthless?
Makita for me, while for cordless screwdrivers I buy the cheapies from screwfix. If they bust, buy another.
Gareth.
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touch wood…. i’ve never yet had a snap on tool fail me, and trust me, they get some abuse, try putting a 4ft scaffold bar on a halford spanner to break a stobborn nut loose, nd when it breaks, try getting it replaced !! snap on arent as big as they ae for selling cheap tat…
Metabo are the same, none of my metabo tools have ever let me down, they may be expensive, but they last, i still see trademen who i sold metabo to ten years ago, no-one has ever said they thought i robbed em !! trust me, metabo IS, in my opinion, the best power tool you’ll get,
yes other makes are good, i’m not saying they’re not, but…. imagine you you have a skoda, bmw and aston martin,
skoda might be the low end diy screwfix throw it away stuff (false economy )
bmw might be the mid range stuff like dewalt, makita etc, good strong tools that will probably be ok over time,
then you have Aston Martin, this is where metabo are, elu and hilti can join too !!, metabo lead… others follow, believe me, check out metabo’s tool range, then check the competitiors in a years time, they’ll just about be catching up then !!
having sold just about every mid to high range tool on the market, i think i’ve got a fairly good idea of the tools we’re all talking of, i dont have shares in metabo so i don’t have any particular ageda here, i’m just impressing my somewhat educated opinion on a tool i consider to be the best on the market, you dont compare a bmw 5 series with an aston, do you ??? a 5 series might be nice, but it’ll never be an aston !!!!
if you plan on using a tool once a month then go for mid range, hell… my dads old grey black and decker must be 30 yrs old at least, but it doesnt mean you could use it all day every day !!
hmmm, i think i’ve made my point, i’m getting off this topic now, each to their own, i can only offer my advice on a subject i know a little about !
btw, sds was first introduced in this country by metabo, as was a brake lock, as were many other features enjoyed now on other tools -
it is an interesting point of view drag-on. I respect you for that too.
Black and Decker invented the power drill according to the blurb I have from them here, resulting in them getting a royalty for any drill sold in the world. The dewalt range is their industrial unit, and they are constantly at ‘war’ with the other major brands. End of the day, I know some that have had horror stories with all sorts of brands, we can only relate to the service our own tools give.
I do love Dewalt, and I have used many tools over the 12 years in the sign game. I have not used metabo tho, so I am not in a position to compare, but I wouldn’t rubbish another brand either.
You can equate it to sign material. I wouldn’t use avery under most circumstances, whereas other here swear by it. I favour Oracal and 3M when others hear don’t use them at all.
Point is, they all have their good points, to the individual user.
Some tools out there are fantastic, but perhaps they are too heavy for some to hold. I guess I am saying that Metabo may be the bees knees, and I don’t know for sure, but Dewalt has worked for me without so much as a hickup, so I see no reason to reccommend anything else.
I also have the opportunity to test a lot of tools, including dewalt and black and decker, as Dewalt are a major account for me. It is not that I am biased either, as I was using Dewalt well before I got the contract.
It is good to have an open discussion on points like these tho, as most of us here enjoy a good ‘to and fro’ anytime, as long as no one gets hurt of course!! 😛
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i have heard a few storys from mechanics saying they broke a snap-on part before, but they still like their guarantees.
Dewalt is favourite according to my collegues. However there is an issue of giving the most expensive tools like DeWalt to your workers who are working up high, we had one guy who dropped both dewalt’s in one week!
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since SDS has come up, what does it mean, I keep asking people and they don’t know, and its a bit embarassing telling them about my fantastic Dewalt 24v sds drill and not know what i stands for.
Over to you Drag-on
dave
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lol, i was quite proud about how much i knew about power tools way back when, guess i must’ve ben a little full of myself back then !
ok, the actual sds abbreviation has eluded my memory, but basically its a very heavy duty ammer drill, giving far more weight behind each blow than a usual hammer drill, many of them also have the option of stopping the ortation so it can be used as a chisel too, the drill bits are quite expensive, but will last longer, they also have a different type of chuck that has lugs inside which fit into hollows on the sds drill bit shank, elimnating any slip, never use a normal hss drill bit in there when the drill is on ‘sds’ setting, you’ll likely blow it to pieces and shower yerself with bits of hot steel !
that about covers it,
my comment about metabo introducing the sds drill, n hindsight, was possibly wrong, i seem to remember an argument over whether bosch has brought it out first, but i know we had metabo sds a good 6mnths before the bosch ones.
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Drag-On I know what they do I have one as mentioned but want to know what SDS stands for.
Dave
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Single Drilling Speed? I think. 😕
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http://www.bobvila.com/BBS/Tools/1038/1 … page1.html
Maybe?
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its something a little more techy than single drill speed, i remember that much, like i say, i used to be quite chuffed i knew when customers asked me, but the ol’ brain aint quite what it was !
i’ve just dne a google and cant find it on there either, i used to read all the metabo trade bulletins for the new products etc, an got it from one of those, i’ll have a rummage through the shed and see if i’ve still got any paperwork there !
damn, dont ya just hate it when you cant remember something you used to just reel off no probs !!
smasherupper drilling somethingorother ?? !!!
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SDS Drills SDS – Special Drive System
was annoying me!
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is that really it ? could swear it was something more tech laden than that, oh well, i’ll call the men in coats, th memory’s completely shot now !
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SDS = Slotted Drill Shaft!!!! Read the whole explanation in the URL 3 boxes above… and that is the only right answer!!
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Yer thanks Comeonulinnets I can rest easy now
Cheers
Dave
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http://www.healystool.co.uk/Right%20fra … prosds.htm
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We’re all right! Look at his page: http://www.screwfix.com/talk/thread.jsp … &tstart=15 😉 5 explanations for SDS 😀
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or this page http://www.contractortoolsandsupplies.com/past … rPound.htm 😮
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