from whom you got the ICC profile?

[Robert Lambie]

i would think it depends on the machine you are using and if there is a compatible profile for it. personally i think its up to the manufacturers to supply the profiles for free. yes, it would be costly for them due to the amount of printers already on the market and coming on the market by the day, but it is in there best interest. people will only use their material IF their machine can print onto it. stands to reason.

[Robert Lambie]

sorry, just reread this, are you only talking about Avery Vinyl?

[Jake Woo]

quote Robert Lambie:

sorry, just reread this, are you only talking about Avery Vinyl?

No. No. I mean general situation.
Avery was just an example.

And also I wonder that there can be different 2 ICCs for a specific vinyl.
For example, is it possible that ICC profiles can be different between
one from manufacturer and one from supplier?

[Robert Lambie]

what is your veiw, should the manufacturers website offer the profiles or should they come via the supplier?

edit- if this is generalising i think it best we dont use any suppliers names here.

[Jake Woo]

quote Robert Lambie:

what is your veiw, should the manufacturers website offer the profiles or should they come via the supplier?

I changed my post above.

Anyway, I don’t know. That’s what I want to know.
Should a manufacturer controll the ICC or not.

(Rob, did you read my emai today?)

[RobGF]

quote Jake Woo:

And also I wonder that there can be different 2 ICCs for a specific vinyl.
For example, is it possible that ICC profiles can be different between
one from manufacturer and one from supplier?

Why not? If a manufacturer creates an ICC profile on their demo machine it’s made under a certain set of circumstances; ambient room temperature, humidity, variations in hardware… they will get an accurate ICC profile for their set of circumstances on that media for that moment in time. If a supplier elects to create their own ICC profile for the machine they will have variations to deal with too and therefore have a different ICC profile. Same machines and media don’t account for a multitude of variables.

In my mind no matter where you get the profile from, you’ve just got a starting point… something to get you going. The end user is going to have their own unique hardware (no two machines are ever 100% identical) and operating environment so in the end they will be best served by generating their own ICC profiles.

Is that what you’re getting at?

Rob

[Andrea M.]

The best ICC profile is one that you create on your own machine with the type of ink you are running. Many things affect colour: print speed, resolution, pre and print heat, 4,6 or 8 colour, humidity in the printing environment, material printing on. You may not use the same heat settings that I do, so my profiles may work differently for you than they do for me. If you do not invest in some profiling software, then I suppose that manufactures that supply ICC’s are a good place to start. From my experience based on the profiles that came with our JV3, the ink limits were set to max and I have found anything over 250 is too high for what we print. And the colour output on pre-done profiles were not nearly as rich as what I can achieve with my profiles. Just my 2 cents worth.
Andrea