Fines – are they the new tax?

[Hugh Potter]

technically we all need waste carrying licences, even though it’s our own waste when returning from an install.

I got stopped once for a vosa vehicle check and there was some bod going on about waste licences, I argued that the two aluminium trays and handful of composite panels were not waste as they were to be refurbished and re-used. He took that (and the trays were re-used!) and luckily didn’t investigate further as there was about 3million metres of backing paper and screwed up app tape underneath the trays and vinyl boxes!!!!!

[Martin Cole]

quote Phill Fenton:

Seems a roofer got fined for having a bag of his own rubbish in his van. :-
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/99796 … ncil-waste

That is quite unbelivable… :shake:

A good ol council jobsworth…… send them out to try and make a living working for themselves

[David Hammond]

I heard this on the radio… it’s utter madness. He’d have probably not got caught chucking his rubbish out the van, and if he did get caught, would’ve likely only got a £60 fine… but that takes more people and resources, when they can just do random stops and fleece the honest hard working motorists.

I can understand having WCL if you’re doing waste removals, but if it’s your own waste commercial or not, what’s the need?

£153.00 for a 3 year licence :shake:

[Iain George]

I have a lower tier license which is free. As I am only producing my own waste and not removing waste from other locations for my business. Okay an old pan tray may be classed as waste but as Hugh said if I am going to reuse it who is to know.

[Colin Bland]

My son is an electrician and his partner just got fined £300 for carry cardboard packaging from some light fittings they had installed which he was carrying back to their skip in the yard, another tax on the working man

[NeilRoss]

Unbelievable! Civil disobedience may not be far away!

[Denise Goodfellow]

Easy pickings, Hartley ever hear of fly tippers getting caught and fined, but that’s too much trouble

[Peter Johnson]

I saw that story the other day and thought ‘Ridiculous’. Surely a quick caution/wrist slap would have sufficed.

After reading the rest of this topic, I just went online and registered as a lower tier waste carrier. Was free, lasts forever (automatically renews itself) and took less than 5 minutes. A little peace of mind on that subject now.

[Jean Oakley]

Good call Peter, Ive just gone online myself and registered. Like you say a little peace of mind. I wouldnt have known there was a lower tier waste carrying licence. That said ive been working in my business for 24 years now and never had a problem.

[David Hammond]

Ahhh but are you covered by the lower tier licence?

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Do you ever deal with building, construction or demolition waste?

What is building, construction and demolition waste?

This waste typically includes soil, concrete, bricks, glass, wood, plasterboard, asbestos, metal and plastic.

It can be produced as part of a large construction project or a smaller business activity, like a general builder replacing a bathroom, or a gardener replacing fence panels and paving slabs.

quote :

What are lower tier and upper tier?

Lower tier

You will be a lower tier carrier if you only carry

animal by-products
waste from mines and quarries
waste from agricultural premises

You will also need to register as a lower tier carrier if you carry waste, and are

a waste collection, disposal or regulation authority
a charity or voluntary organisation.

Upper tier

If you transport other people’s waste, or your own construction or demolition waste, you will be an upper tier waste carrier unless you fall into one of the categories for lower tier waste carriers.

I’m not sure… if you removed an old sign, and took it back to the unit to skip, would you be covered… of course we can try and blag it.

[Iain George]

Well I called the local authorities and they advised me to get the lower tier as it was my own waste and not construction. Also the dump where I take all my stuff don’t even ask if I have a transfer ticket or license.

[David Hammond]

I suppose if you’re unlucky enough to get stopped, it’s who stop’s you on the day. Either way better to have something & shown willing than to have nothing at all.