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    Posted by Alistair Richards on 24 June 2009 at 12:30

    Hi Everyone.

    Just thought i’d share this one with you, I’ve only ever made a couple of tray’s before, both small and one of them was a sample for myself.

    As you can see from the "before" picture, the previous sign was onto timber battens, and was limited by a concrete cill protrusion across the width of the building which looked naf. After a bit of thinking, I recommended to the client that I made a sign tray, and covered the whole band with it, thus transforming the image of the building.

    As you can see from the fitting pictures, I had to fix a 100 x 50mm ally angle to the front of the concrete cill because space was limited to have the tray going too high.

    All made by myself and fitted single handedly, apart from the cnc cut logo that i bought in.

    Anyway hope you like it.

    Whilst at it, one point I’d like to ask is, do you guys glue the joins when butting two trays. I did a t & g style join as recommended kindly by Peter in another post I made, but I didn’t glue it when joining the two trays upon fitting. I thought not to as it would make hard to remove if ever needed. I did notice though, after a couple days of the sign being up, the joints that were perfect when I left have parted slightly. It’s not too bad, but if it was a white sign it might show a bit. Could it be the weather, expansion/contraction?


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    Peter Dee replied 16 years, 4 months ago 11 Members · 14 Replies
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  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    24 June 2009 at 12:38

    nice job Alistair!

  • Nicola McIntosh

    Member
    24 June 2009 at 12:56

    i like that, nice job done alistair 😀

  • Peter Dee

    Member
    24 June 2009 at 14:20

    Really smart job making good use of the frontage.

    Would that be in a gay part of town? :wedgey: 🙄

    I just feel that the window sills could have been the fascia colour rather than the "fuscia".

  • Martin Cole

    Member
    24 June 2009 at 14:29

    Nice Job Alistair, well done mate.

    tiny crit 🙁 loose the tel: as usual,… reduce phone no by 15% and lift it by about 50mm, makes all the difference.

    Very good though, should be proud of that

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    24 June 2009 at 17:19

    very nice.
    if i had designed that i would have automatically done the 3 waves in 3 shades of blue. but i am normally wrong,
    a lot of work in that hope you were well rewarded

    i of cause will give it very close scrutiny when i am that way 😉

    chris

  • Dan Osterbery

    Member
    24 June 2009 at 17:33

    i think its great mate, what are the dimensions?? a good one to build at home!!

    well done

    Dan

  • John Harding

    Member
    24 June 2009 at 17:47

    :appl: Alistair

    my only comment remove the trestles before final pics to use in your portfolio

  • Jill Marie Welsh

    Member
    24 June 2009 at 17:49

    I like it. Love the fuschia. (sp?)
    The "waves" would have looked cool with a bit of color variation but I still think it’s 1000% better than before.
    Would have liked to seen the "inset" by the doors in a paler grey but that’s the building owner’s deal.
    We had a total dive bar here for years named Waves.
    The most pathetic New Year’s Eve of my life was spent there by me and my neighbor lady when I was 39. Not one of the toothless wonders in there even asked us to dance. We drank our champagne toast out of our plastic glasses (included in the $30 cost for the evening) and went home.
    Love….Jill

  • Mike Grant

    Member
    24 June 2009 at 18:25

    Nicely done, especially as you did it on your own.

    Pity about those horrible cheap & nasty swan neck lights though. 👿

  • Jason Xuereb

    Member
    25 June 2009 at 01:06

    Now that’s a top look job and great work fabricating that also.

  • Alistair Richards

    Member
    25 June 2009 at 09:37

    Thanks all for the positive comments and couple minor crits taken on board.

    Funny you should say that Chris, there old logo was pretty much the same but with the three shades of blue, but they’ve had a bit of a revamp and gone all out mono colour, pinks greys etc.

    Dan, the size of the sign was 9.9m by 380mm.

    Just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the question I asked about the joins. They we perfect when I left the sign, but when passing the other day I noticed tiny gaps had appeared. I thought maybe the hot weather we’re having, but didn’t think alu comp moved much like that. Do others glue the panels together when fitting? I made sure also that any joins in the rails didn’t line up with the joins in the panels.

    Any help/comments appreciated.

    Ali 😀

  • Peter Dee

    Member
    25 June 2009 at 12:17

    Alistair, composite ally expands/contracts at 3mm over 2.44m with a 100F change of temperature.
    This equates to 1.25mm per metre per 100 degree variation.
    A 30F degree change would result in 0.375mm per metre.
    So over 9 metres the expansion/contraction would be 3.37mm.
    This will mainly show at the joins.
    It would all depend on the temperature of the panels when fitted compared to the temperature achieved on the face in direct sun.
    Since the facing is dark coloured the effect would be even more (than if white).
    There is absolutely no way around this, hence the reason motorway bridges have sliding joints at each edge, and railway lines make a noise when the joints open up.
    Unfortunately it shows up on long signs like this.

  • Alistair Richards

    Member
    25 June 2009 at 12:23

    Thanks for the reply Peter, in your opinion would putting a thin 10mm strip of vinyl up the join look bodge, or if I went back on a cold day and adjusted/tightend up the joins, it might warp on a hot day.

  • Peter Dee

    Member
    25 June 2009 at 13:15

    The vinyl will wrinkle and draw attention to it.
    I would tend to leave it or possible really tighten the fixings at the joins and leave all others slightly loose. If there are 2 joins it will still leave a problem with the centre panel but reduced by half the amount.
    Possibly this would be an idea when installing, together with a vertical piece of same finish ally on the rear face to bridge the gap.
    I have seen small screws fitted through the face to keep the edges together using a flat plate stuck to one piece (on the rear), and the screws screwed through in to the overlapping part. Does spoil the look though.
    Of course you could fit a strap on the top and bottom edges to force the expansion away from the butted edges.
    Then all the fixings could be left slightly loose (oversized holes) bar a few in the centre.

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