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  • Shane Drew

    Member
    9 September 2006 at 01:48

    me :lol1:

  • Micheal Donnellan

    Member
    9 September 2006 at 01:52

    Kinda obvious that you own one, your on their site. 😀
    please vote if you don’t mind

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    9 September 2006 at 03:05
    quote Micheal Donnellan:

    Kinda obvious that you own one, your on their site. 😀

    I’m doing autographs wednesday and Saturday nights mate :bow: :lol1:

  • John Stevenson

    Member
    9 September 2006 at 07:50

    and me 😀 (Easy taper, not autographs)

    (I’ve voted)

  • Phil Halling

    Member
    9 September 2006 at 19:21

    Me too, if you want an autograph you’ll have to pm me and I’ll send you one

  • John Wilson

    Member
    9 September 2006 at 19:38

    I’ve wanted one for a while but can’t justify the money yet as I need other things first but really want one

    I was going to say if I win the lottery then I’d buy one tomorrow but if I won the lottery then I’d retire :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

    Wooo Hooo my 500th post 😮

  • Kevin Flowers

    Member
    9 September 2006 at 19:42

    i have one

    Kev

    & i’ve voted

  • Marekdlux

    Member
    9 September 2006 at 20:01

    I am trying to get one. I don’t think there are any U.S. suppliers though, so I am working with the Australian one.
    -Marek

  • Dave Bruce

    Member
    9 September 2006 at 20:39

    I want one saving up, so should have one for next year.

    Should have an option for I want one.

    Dave

  • Kevin Flowers

    Member
    9 September 2006 at 22:20

    Dave,
    you can have them on finance now £20 a week if i remember correctly for the 1560mm

    Kev

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    9 September 2006 at 22:33

    Any thing is available on the drip nowadays, but you do need to ask yourself "do I really need it"

    peter

  • Joe McNamara

    Member
    9 September 2006 at 22:44
    quote Peter Normington:

    but you do need to ask yourself “do I really need it”

    peter

    I’m getting one in the near future, and judging from what I’ve seen, its not a case of do I need it, it’s a case of can I afford to be without it!

    2 grand odd isin’t a lot for what it can do.

    Cheers
    Joe

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    9 September 2006 at 22:50

    I can use 2k a lot more efficiently….. just my opinion
    but if you need to flood coat more than a couple of 8x4s a day, then it may have a cost advantage, just saying that it is only worthwhile, like any equipment, if it saves you money.

    Peter

  • Andrew McCreadie

    Member
    9 September 2006 at 23:45

    Yep I’ve got one ….. excellent for what I do

    Andy

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    10 September 2006 at 00:19

    I’ve got 150 600×600 printed signs, and 20 1200×900 printed signs to lay up on corflute tomorrow. Doing these by hand would be a nightmare.

    I have printed 6 600×600 per sheet and I’ll flood coat onto a 1830×1220 corflutes then trim with my keencut. The 2 x 1200×900 are the same.

    As far as having to use it every day to justify the purchase, the machines versatility means that you find many opportunities to put it to action.

    I lay up magnetic signs, thru to 1200×2400 flood coats, not to mention the laminating that gets done most days.

    It was easily the best $4500 I have spent on machinery in the last year, in terms of making my life easier.

    The thing to remember is that, once you’ve got one, you will not shy away from those jobs you may have thought too big for a one man band in the past.

    Just my opinion, but if you can lease one for 20 quid ($50) it would be easy to justify the expense in a normal working environment.

    just my 2c’s anyway.

  • Ian Higgins

    Member
    10 September 2006 at 05:56

    Hi,
    I have one and find that for flood coating and laying graphics on panelsit is great.
    Not too bad at laminating small prints but have just done 10x 1350 x 2500 blue back paper prints and when laminating them 4 had creases and out of that 4 2 are scrap! that was with 3 men doing it.
    For small stuff it is great but it definatly has its limitations. All in all though I am glad we bought it.

    Cheers
    Ian

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    10 September 2006 at 07:16
    quote Higgi29:

    Hi,
    I have one and find that for flood coating and laying graphics on panelsit is great.
    Not too bad at laminating small prints but have just done 10x 1350 x 2500 blue back paper prints and when laminating them 4 had creases and out of that 4 2 are scrap! that was with 3 men doing it.
    For small stuff it is great but it definatly has its limitations. All in all though I am glad we bought it.

    Cheers
    Ian

    Ian, laminating paper is hard on most laminators. You took it under the bar before it when in I take it?

    I had this exact same thing happen on my electric old laminator. GMCfordigraph, the manufacturers came out and told me it was because the ink was not totally dry. The other reason they gave was that the laminate was not correct for the application. Laminates for paper are different than for vinyl apparently (I don’t know if this is true tho)

    If I do paper now, I always laminate it on a 2 or 3mm backing sheet. The size of your sheet would have made that difficult tho as most sheets are only 1220 wide. I’ve never had a problem doing it this way since.

    Sorry you had so much drama mate,

  • Helen_au

    Member
    16 September 2006 at 12:06

    I doubted if we needed the Ezy Taper when my boss first got it…..but now that Im the only signwriter left in the workshop I just dont know what I would do without it. It took me a little while to get my head around how to use it properly but now its definately a huge time saver!!

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    16 September 2006 at 20:52
    quote Shane Drew:

    I’ve got 150 600×600 printed signs, and 20 1200×900 printed signs to lay up on corflute tomorrow. Doing these by hand would be a nightmare.

    I have printed 6 600×600 per sheet and I’ll flood coat onto a 1830×1220 corflutes then trim with my keencut. The 2 x 1200×900 are the same.

    As far as having to use it every day to justify the purchase, the machines versatility means that you find many opportunities to put it to action.

    I lay up magnetic signs, thru to 1200×2400 flood coats, not to mention the laminating that gets done most days.

    It was easily the best $4500 I have spent on machinery in the last year, in terms of making my life easier.

    The thing to remember is that, once you’ve got one, you will not shy away from those jobs you may have thought too big for a one man band in the past.

    Just my opinion, but if you can lease one for 20 quid ($50) it would be easy to justify the expense in a normal working environment.

    just my 2c’s anyway.

    Shane,
    correct me if I’m wrong, but for these quantities, I would have thought screen printing direct to corro would be the most cost effective, or at least using a direct to corro printer, dont want to argue costs, but to lease a machine just because it makes life easier, is not a good argument. Any business outlay must be converted to the profit it will produce, So if you want to produce lots of cheap corro boards, my advice would be to lease a machine or equipment that prints direct, and do away with mounting.

    Just thinking aloud,

    Peter

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    16 September 2006 at 22:07

    Peter, I competed with a screen printer on this tender, and I was cheaper … go figure…

    I don’t disagree in theory, if you are going to lease a machine, lease a flat bed printer and print direct..

    The problem is the economics. In my case, this style of work is not the norm. Without an ezy taper I wouldn’t have considered it either. But if you are considering a new market, it makes better fiscal sense to purchase an affordable option to start ‘testing the water’. Here, in oz, the type of machine you are talking about is about $2500 per month on lease ( I have been doing the math ready to upgrade next year) whereas my Roland is about $1500 a month. In a new market, finding the extra $1000 a month would be hard enough.

    Your argument is also flawed, in my opinion, as my comment was about the usefulness of the ezy taper, not about the best machine to use for the job.

    A flat bed printer can not flood coat vinyl onto a substrate. The ezy taper can, as well as laminate and premask. True, a flat bed can flood a colour onto a substrate, but that is not the same as coating a surface with a 10 year vinyl. And yes, I do a lot of that.

    End of the day, my comment stands.

    I used the ezy taper to lay 170 signs of various sizes to various substrates, on my own, in a day – albeit a long day…

    50 quid a week is less than a juniors wage, and if I were to lay 170 prints manually, I would have needed help, and probably still not done it in a day.

    I still had to trim them of course, but I’d have to do that either way.

    A flat bed would have been a good option if I’d have had one.. I don’t.. so my roland and ezy taper made a good combination, and a damn site cheaper….

    Yes, I could have subbied it out, but then I lose control of the quality control, which was an important factor in this contract.

    Consider yourself corrected 😛

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    16 September 2006 at 22:16

    OK Shane I’m corrected. Maybe you were to cheap, or the screen printer was to dear, without costs per sq m I dont know, but I didnt realise that to print and mount was cheaper and quicker than just to print to the substrata, some you win, some you loose.

    Peter

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    17 September 2006 at 00:31
    quote Peter Normington:

    OK Shane I’m corrected. Maybe you were to cheap, or the screen printer was to dear, without costs per sq m I dont know, but I didnt realise that to print and mount was cheaper and quicker than just to print to the substrata, some you win, some you loose.

    Peter

    The screen printer lost out because the cost of each screen put him out of the game as best I can understand. Being a 4 specific pms colour print, it was pretty labour intensive.

    Digital printing can be very competative against a 4 colour screen print on a small run.

    I have been beaten on screen printing on small runs, but I don’t think they make much money. One local screen printer that used to beat me regularily went broke last month, so I guess he was more worried about the money in the bank, than the long term health of his business. Pretty common trap to new small businesses in the sign game unfortunately.

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