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    Posted by Graham Shand on 9 September 2011 at 07:48

    I cannot wait to see the final product. I have recently had several designs done by the clients kids, so this type of practice seems to be on the increase, hope you are charging them 50% more for the cheek.

    Gert du Preez replied 12 years, 6 months ago 21 Members · 32 Replies
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  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    9 September 2011 at 08:10

    Something’s happened that has upset you? I can tell you know :lol1:

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    9 September 2011 at 08:29

    I always charge extra for bad customer artwork, without exception it takes longer to redraw their rank jpeg made on PowerPoint than it does to draw from scratch.

  • John Harding

    Member
    9 September 2011 at 08:40

    :thread:

  • Jill Marie Welsh

    Member
    9 September 2011 at 10:27
    quote Hugh Potter:

    I always charge extra for bad customer artwork, without exception it takes longer to redraw their rank jpeg made on PowerPoint than it does to draw from scratch.

    Couldn’t have said it better myself, Hugh!
    😀
    Graham please do share the final designs. Please.
    I need a good laugh!
    Love….Jill

  • Graham Shand

    Member
    9 September 2011 at 17:12
    quote Jill Marie Welsh:

    quote Hugh Potter:

    I always charge extra for bad customer artwork, without exception it takes longer to redraw their rank jpeg made on PowerPoint than it does to draw from scratch.

    Couldn’t have said it better myself, Hugh!
    😀
    Graham please do share the final designs. Please.
    I need a good laugh!
    Love….Jill

    most of the designs done by my clients kids are more at home in a gallery of modern art , or as I say when they ask me waht I think, I reply "wonderful isn’t the word"

  • Ben.Hall

    Member
    18 October 2011 at 22:35

    I was given a image produced in paint to print on a t-shirt 😮

    I was lucky it was sent by email as I burst out in laughter when I saw the hideous picture.

  • Karl Williams

    Member
    18 October 2011 at 22:45
    quote Ben.Hall:

    I was given a image produced in paint to print on a t-shirt 😮

    I was lucky it was sent by email as I burst out in laughter when I saw the hideous picture.

    Your lucky…….I’ve had some in the past on the back of a beer mat!

  • Graham Shand

    Member
    19 October 2011 at 05:47

    Hot off the press, for ten points can anyone tell me what kinda bird leaves these kind of tracks ? Or if you like "is it a bird is it a loaf" , there’s gotta be an easier way to make a living, I feel like an Art therapist.


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  • Gert du Preez

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    19 October 2011 at 06:01

    Graham, it’s obvious…….they breed birds as "treats and toys" for cats. 😕

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    19 October 2011 at 07:50

    Ah but you are missing some very clever and subtle features that have been incorporated into the design.

    Consider the use of Phi (otherwise known as the golden ratio). The designer has planned his layout with meticulous detail ensuring that this ratio is repeated over and over again to create a design of outstanding beauty.
    (e.g the ratio of the lower rectangles dimensions, the same with the oval shape , and again with the ratio of the heights of the two birds.)

    And of course the care and craftsmanship that has gone into the layout ensuring that the margin spaces are correct and with the careful use of the negative spaces in the design.

    But why has the Burd on the right got a hole in it’s head 😕

  • George Zerbino

    Member
    19 October 2011 at 08:06
    quote Graham Shand:

    Hot off the press, for ten points can anyone tell me what kinda bird leaves these kind of tracks ? Or if you like “is it a bird is it a loaf” , there’s gotta be an easier way to make a living, I feel like an Art therapist.

    Easy, a genetically modified one!

  • David Rowland

    Member
    19 October 2011 at 11:05

    im sure that looks like one of many signs… just so happens to be the bird one

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    19 October 2011 at 11:43

    reminds me of an experience I had last year…. I was at a home show and came across this little stand, tucked away in a back isle without any customers. On the back wall was this obviously home made sign that was very average indeed. Putting on my best sales voice, I whipped out my card, introduced myself as a local sign supplier and suggested I could do a better sign that might attract more clients, pointing out that an amateur sign gives the wrong impression for an obviously professional business.

    The guys wife just looked at me, held back the tears, and blurted out that it was a great sign and that it didn’t detract from their business, and that their son did it, and they were immensely proud of his efforts.

    I was speechless….. 😮

  • Graham Shand

    Member
    19 October 2011 at 13:34
    quote Shane Drew:

    reminds me of an experience I had last year…. I was at a home show and came across this little stand, tucked away in a back isle without any customers. On the back wall was this obviously home made sign that was very average indeed. Putting on my best sales voice, I whipped out my card, introduced myself as a local sign supplier and suggested I could do a better sign that might attract more clients, pointing out that an amateur sign gives the wrong impression for an obviously professional business.

    The guys wife just looked at me, held back the tears, and blurted out that it was a great sign and that it didn’t detract from their business, and that their son did it, and they were immensely proud of his efforts.

    I was speechless….. 😮

    I too burst out crying at some of my efforts, but never never in front of the client, that is the key thing to say here.

  • Stephen Morriss

    Member
    19 October 2011 at 16:03

    That’s good compared to some of the ones I’ve seen, stop complaining and get on with redrawing it, with different bullet points, birds, colours, border….. 😎

    Steve

  • Karl Williams

    Member
    19 October 2011 at 17:45

    Ignore that. tried to edit me post but it came up again as a reply. 😳

  • Jill Marie Welsh

    Member
    20 October 2011 at 12:25

    Man what a clusterf*ck of a layout.
    Hahaha
    😀
    Needs some of this.


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  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    20 October 2011 at 12:33

    I had one 5 minutes ago by email.

    they want a vehicle wrap, full car, with prospect of doing several other vehicles they have if this one looks good.

    ends in, "they are pretty artistic and want to try and design this themselves". so if we can send them a vehicle template, they will design it and we can advise and tweak it here and there if necessary. 😕 :lol1:

    🙄

  • David Hammond

    Member
    20 October 2011 at 13:32

    Yes we had a nice gent in wanting some booklets printing.

    We explained how the artwork must be supplied, as a multi page pdf.

    He rocks up with an external hard drive with each page as a separate PSD.

  • John Wilson

    Member
    20 October 2011 at 13:37

    One of the dance schools we do printing for gave the kids blank paper to design the new tracksuits…. dare to say they are no longer my customer after I laughed in their face when they turned up with the top 3 to be printed :lol1:

  • David Hammond

    Member
    20 October 2011 at 13:41

    Reminds me of this video…

    http://youtu.be/VfprIxNfCjk

  • Karl Williams

    Member
    20 October 2011 at 23:09
    quote David Hammond:

    Reminds me of this video…

    http://youtu.be/VfprIxNfCjk

    Got that on my phone mate. Hilarious but very true! 😀 😉

  • Kerry Henderson

    Member
    2 February 2012 at 11:04
    quote Robert Lambie:

    I had one 5 minutes ago by email.

    they want a vehicle wrap, full car, with prospect of doing several other vehicles they have if this one looks good.

    ends in, “they are pretty artistic and want to try and design this themselves”. so if we can send them a vehicle template, they will design it and we can advise and tweak it here and there if necessary. 😕 :lol1:

    🙄

    Looks like someone was after a free vehicle template 😀

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    2 February 2012 at 11:28

    my pet hate is designers that can only work in PS and when asked for a vector get a traced file. and poor at that.

  • Stephen Morriss

    Member
    2 February 2012 at 11:35
    quote Chris Wool:

    my pet hate is designers that can only work in PS and when asked for a vector get a traced file. and poor at that.

    My pet hate is designers full stop 🙂
    Just made some direction signs for a pub and the "designer" insisted that they had to be Matt, so I did them with normal gloss vinyl and know one was bothered, the designer will never see them either.

    Steve

    I’ll probably get a phone call this afternoon now :lol1:

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    2 February 2012 at 12:02

    designer " colours will be easy i have all the pantone ref."

    answer even easier i have a rack full of colours you come and choose.

  • Glen Mathers

    Member
    2 February 2012 at 15:52
    quote Chris Wool:

    designer ” colours will be easy i have all the pantone ref.”

    answer even easier i have a rack full of colours you come and choose.

    😀 😀 😀 Good answer 😀 😀 😀

  • Neil Beckett

    Member
    15 April 2013 at 22:53

    I once had to put the strapline "hair all about it" onto a hairdressers car backwindow graphics. Made me cringe, but she’s happy and I guess that’s what counts however bad.

  • Gary Birch

    Member
    17 April 2013 at 07:22

    I think the worst ones are architects. The majority have no idea about vectors and bitmaps or ar$es and elbows.

  • James Phillips

    Member
    17 April 2013 at 08:04

    I was always taught that Architects:

    "had their heads in the clouds and their feet in sh*t"

    (despite wanting to be one when i was younger)

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    17 April 2013 at 13:23
    quote James Phillips:

    I was always taught that Architects:

    “had their heads in the clouds and their feet in sh*t”

    (despite wanting to be one when i was younger)

    my brother it’s what’s generally known as a qualified architects assistant.

    his general description used to be that "the architect does some fancy drawing and tells us what it’s made of, we tear it apart and rebuild it for him using materials that actually exist and and be used together, he sends it back with more alterations, we return it in the same manner as before… repeat until he does what he is bloody well told"

    🙂

  • Gert du Preez

    Member
    19 April 2013 at 19:20

    ……..had a quote request from a builder earlier this week. He forwarded the Arci’s specs…..

    Peg mounted letters. Laser cut from 5mm Stainless…….

    Now, those of you who know Namibia, will know the closest thing to 5mm stainless in this country is likely to be the 3mm K Bar knifeblade I want to plunge into somebody’s chest……

    Not to mention that the most powerful laser is maybe a 100Watt glass tube job…..

    Quoted on 4,5mm Alu (we have in stock, and can cut) with the option of 5mm stainless (source from RSA) and have them plasma cut. (also local)

    Doubt the "draw-me-a-nice-building guy will even know the difference.

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