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Encad Vinyljet 36 vs Versa Camm
Anyone got any info on this machine.
I know it dos’nt cut but it offers the same spec as the Versa Camm…
Three years outdoor, unlaminated using water based inks with heaters. -
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Hi!
If I remember right, the Vinyljet can’t print to paper. You can use it only for vinyl and banner works.This is a big dilemma for me too. Which is the best (inexpensive) wide format printer for sign making (?) (?) (?)
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The reason the Encad (Kodak) VinyJet can’t print to paper is because of it’s 220 Volt heater.
This same heater prevents people from letting it print un-attended (like all night long–which is nice at times). Apparently it is a fire hazard to leave it printing by itself.
I think the VinylJet has a 36″ output, which is a plus compared to the VersaCam’s 30″.
Why Encad can’t tone down their heater is anybody’s guess.
The Mimaiki JV3-160 is supposed to be coming out with Eco-sol inks sometime soon. However, it’s either Eco-sol or Solvent. You can’t switch back and forth.
Stephen Bolin
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went to see the encad after the versacamm for my money opps i mean my bosses money i recommended the versacamm while i was lokking at the encad there was smoke comming from the back and i dont mean a trickle.AS well as that it can only go up to 600dpi as appose to 1400dpi
off the versacamm and not only that the versacamm looked a much better machine the encad has a lot off old proven parts in it which could be a plus depends what way u look at it me personally fell old is old and not always better.
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Sounds like you’ve purchased the Versacamm
I think a lot on the board would be keenly interested on your observations with this machine. So please keep us updated
John
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Maybe the Mutoh Rockhopper I. is good alternative. It can’t cut but 46″ wide (~14000 EUR+VAT).
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HI JOHN NEAREST DELIVERY IS JANUARY: WE ONLY GET 10 MACHINES IN IRELAND UP TILL THEN.SEEMINLY WE GET 10 PERCENT OF THE MACHINES BOUND FOR G.B.
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I’ve ordered a Versacamm it seems a good compromise to me especially after my recent poor experiences with a thermal transfer machine. I am hoping to take delivery in December and will keep you posted.
I looked at the Encad but as I have made money in the past from label printing and contour cutting First vinyl on the Cammjet I think the Print/Cut facility outweighs the narrower print width.
Allan
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Printed my first job onto clear vinyl today using the verssa Camm, results look very good indeed.
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Mark,
That’s good to hear because I have one on order, did you experience any of that finger rubbing off the print that someone was on about or did it look good. I have just had a nasty experience with a thermal machine which I had to return so I am a bit aprehensive. I spoke with a man from Roland the other day he was adamant the print did not rub off as described.
Allan
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Mark,
What was the opacity like on the clear vinyl?
Allan
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Bump !
Mark, i`d love to see the results of that printing on to clear.
Rod
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Sorry I missed the end of this thread, in regards to printing onto clear the results are very good. Darker colours look best as you would imagine.
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Have you tried to tile anything with the Versacamm yet Mark?. If so, how were the results?
Rod
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i noticed the new cadet now on sale. not sure the exact price but it looks like a modified versacamm like the soljet for the grenadeir.
if so, now we have the true sol printer at same costs as the versacamm.. 🙄
anyone know the cost of the cadet? b&p sell this as the baby grenadier.i have started a second tets on the versacamm..
ive been running about with prints on my van for about 3 weeks now in the snow and cold, rain etc. havent had a close look but the prints seem perfectly fine at the moment. ok we are only talking weeks.. but we are talking bad weather and a couple of presher washes.. -
Victory Design are also advertising a full solvent printer which looks identical to the versacamm, same specs too. In fact, it is the same colour as the b&p machine. It retails at the same price as the versacamm.
I get the feeling that these printers (including the roland) are most likely made by another company from the far east and badged for the suppliers, a bit like a lot of the power tools available in the uk which are made in china.
There could well be a flood of various ‘badged’ machines appearing in the next few months. Hopefully, a bit of competition might reduce the prices! Anyone had any good quotes below 9k yet?
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Hi All
The Cadet costs £8995 , thats just the asking price, you need extractor fan for it as the fumes can be strong ,
It comes with a secondary rip from Roland,
Cheers
Richie
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B&P seem to be doing some good deals on the Cadet (this months sign up date)
lease purchase over 5 years @ £40 a week
interest free credit spread over 18 months
Rental at a cost lower than lease purchase (proberbly £39.99 a week :lol:)Victory has called thiers the EcoJET compact, they all look the same as the versacamm except the ends on victory and B&P’s machines are blue
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