employing a workshop operative rate advice please

[Ian Johnston]

about right

[Mike Grant]

Start them off with the minimum wage and see if they can cut the mustard. Put him/her on a 3 month trial first before making a full job offer. Pay then what you think he/she is worth.

[Peter Normington]

peanuts and monkeys spring to mind, find a good one and they will only stay long enough to realise they can buy their own set up for a months wage and go into competion with you 🙁

Maybe look at employing a young mother or older person part time

Peter

[David Litster]

This probably won’t help but my mate started up and i just used to help him out when available and when he needed it wages were i was lucky if i got paid!! never mind it gave me a knowledge and now i work for myself and he works for someone else

[Mo Gillis-Coates]

which is ok pete, but they have to know how to design, market, run a business and have the financial backing to make it work….. if someone is going to work for me for 6.50 an hour they aint gonna have the savvy to get a business off the ground are they?

Cost me a lot more than a months wage to set up what i got, they couldn’t buy the material to make the benches I made on the money I’m going to pay them a month..

Or are you saying a monkey could set up and run your business with a few months knowledge?

[David Litster]

Sorry if i mislead anyone i just was helping a mate out gained knowledge from him we still help each other out as I’m never going to be as far up the food chain as him he’s got years more experience as me but still glad i could help him when i did only thing i would add is he used to suffer at the expense of his own wage in the beginning but guess we all have!!

[Peter Normington]

quote Mo Gillis-Coates:

which is ok pete, but they have to know how to design, market, run a business and have the financial backing to make it work….. if someone is going to work for me for 6.50 an hour they aint gonna have the savvy to get a business off the ground are they?

Cost me a lot more than a months wage to set up what i got, they couldn’t buy the material to make the benches I made on the money I’m going to pay them a month..

Or are you saying a monkey could set up and run your business with a few months knowledge?

No, not saying that but for £6 50 an hour you will only get someone who will take more of your time to supervise, leave them alone and they will be texting their mates and producing their own t shirts from your stock.
40 x 4 x 6.50 = about a grand, so a basic di sub set up?
as for knowledge. if they found uksb, and phils book what more would they need?

Peter 😀 😀

[Lynn Normington]

sorry wrong post

[Mo Gillis-Coates]

quote Peter Normington:

quote Mo Gillis-Coates:

which is ok pete, but they have to know how to design, market, run a business and have the financial backing to make it work….. if someone is going to work for me for 6.50 an hour they aint gonna have the savvy to get a business off the ground are they?

Cost me a lot more than a months wage to set up what i got, they couldn’t buy the material to make the benches I made on the money I’m going to pay them a month..

Or are you saying a monkey could set up and run your business with a few months knowledge?

No, not saying that but for £6 50 an hour you will only get someone who will take more of your time to supervise, leave them alone and they will be texting their mates and producing their own t shirts from your stock.
40 x 4 x 6.50 = about a grand, so a basic di sub set up?
as for knowledge. if they found uksb, and phils book what more would they need?

Peter 😀 😀

Lol true, but i doubt they would be able to log in to the putor and run the versacamm geez i’m only just getting my head around that… wasnt thinking of hiring a nipper tho must admit

[Phill Fenton]

quote Peter Normington:

as for knowledge. if they found uksb, and phils book what more would they need?

Peter 😀 😀

Passion drive and determination spring to mind.

Our business (sign making) is no different from any other skilled business. It’s not enough to know how to do it – you need the passion, drive and determination to start a business and make it success full long term.

The book was never intended to encourage more competition – the intention was to educate and ensure that anyone new entering the industry had their eyes open and were intent on "doing it right" by raising standards and helping to ensure we all were involved in an industry that remained viable that was not being diluted by the "cowboy" element. 😀

Mo’s question was a fair question – how much to pay an employee? The answers given are relevant – we shouldn’t assume that every employee has a secret ambition to start their own sign making business

[Gavin MacMillan]

quote :

we shouldn’t assume that every employee has a secret ambition to start their own sign making business

absolutely agree with that! Wages and how people are treated are factors also but not everybody wants to work for themselves.

G

[Bob Clarkson]

There’s a lot of people with no want to work for themselves, many people with families and mortgages would sooner have the stability they believe an employer offers.

With respect to wage, people should earn what their worth is the closest I can say. With a lot of unemployment out there, I think you could get someone for £6.50 an hour that would give you a good days work. I they’re really good and loyal, give them a bit more, if their barely ok, leave it the same.

I employ in other fields I work in, and when specific qualifications have been needed, I’ve paid a premium. But as much as I’ve paid serious money, a wage won’t necessarily change what a person fundamentally is. I’ve personally qualified in all relevant areas now, so I won’t be over a barrel again.

Basically if you pay £6.50 or £15.00 you won’t gain, you’ll just be spending more.

With regards to people going off on their own and starting up not having the skills, just take a look at the work that’s out there, and the standards customers will now accept if the price is cheap enough. That’s not meant as an insult, just a perception.