Does anyone use LG Chem LC7000 plus vinyl?

[Lynn Normington]

the only lg I have used is reflective ,properties are ok but have noticed vinyl lifts from backing in sort of ridges.

Lynn

[Robert Lambie]

have heard of it mate, but not good reports im afraid. in fairness, i havent tried it myself nor do i know the grades of vinyl used, but i havet heard great results…

oops

im as liar

i “think” i heard someone say it has been improved lately. not sure what life etc but there you go..
sorry i cant be of more help

[John Harding]

Guys

I use it a lot and to be fair I think its on a par with mactac 9800 for general sign usage. Cuts and weeds similarly and fine over simple contours

From memory its a calendared polymeric, I recall Colours are 5 year and b&w 7 year, it can be used on banners although not as good as proper banner vinyl but its ok and then of course a better colour range for banner work.

Its reasonably priced to, have seen some vans I did with it 3 years ago and they still look tidy

supplier for me APS

john

[Jayne Marsh]

I use Lg Chem for my standard stuff, it’s fine to use cuts, weeds and applies easily. It has been improved over the past year or so, not a great colour range but ok for basic stuff, oh and its cheap! :lol1:

[Robert Lambie]

“please dont take this in the wrong way”
just remember, for us folk to offer “cheap” alternative materials/signs, is daft. how much is vinyl these days? if we are serious about work, we should be offerring the best designs, service & materials at the lowest prices possible?
forget the re-brands, and use the proper products?

always look upon yourself walking into a fast food outlet.
if you go in once and eat crap, you wont go back!, not only that you WILL tell your mates! like anything else….

[Peter Normington]

OOOps wrong analogy rob!
got to say it
fast food is cheap and cheerful, but in the long run is not the best. I certainly only buy it once or twice a year.
If I want good quality I will spent the dosh.
A bit of meat is very cheap, but the chef will enhance the end product to justify the cost, not just the meat, but the service, and all that goes into it
Peter

[Robert Lambie]

hi peter
when his customer buys a sign he just looks at the final article.
how does he knowthat that the foamex that its laid on will NOT buckle and twist in months to come.
how does he know the red FOAMEX will be pink in a few weeks?
how does he know that his shrink vinyl will have glue lines round it shortly?
how does he know his vinyl will crack and look bad…

when signmakers, knowing it or not, with under priced signs, are the guys that jepordise our trade 😕

[Peter Normington]

Customer dosn’t know nothing,
Like they arn’t to know the ingredients for fast food.
Some vinyls are good others are not so good.
Justy saying you used the wrong analogy.
Aberdeen angus is the finest beef to start with,
But a good chef can use an old cow and produce a good meal
Peter

[Jayne Marsh]

Just because it’s cheap, Im not saying its not good quality, far from it! Ive not had any problems or comebacks whenever Ive used LG Chem Vinyl and Ive had jobs out there for about 4 years. I certainly wouldnt use low quality vinyl on any sign and would expect LG Chem 5 year vinyl to be just as good quality as other makes. I also use Mactac, Ritrama and Oracal vinyls.

[Lynn Normington]

Rob you say you haven’t used LG so what are you basing your opinion on ?

Lynn

[Peter Normington]

Sorry got to add to the last post:
A bad chef can use the best ingredients, and turn out rubish,
Peter

[David McDonald]

Hi All

I’ve only ever used LGChem 7000 Plus, never had any problems at all.

Every sign I’ve done still looks good up to 24 months down the line (only started then). I’ve put it on ‘short term’ banners that have turned out to have been in use far longer than scheduled and they still look good. I’ve ‘moulded’ it with heat guns into many a Sprinter/LT recess without any issues and it cuts & weeds fine for me. No evidence of shrinking, peeling or cracking in any degree.

I might try something else the next time a supplier offer drops through the letterbox – but it would have to be a really good offer to beat the price of the LG stuff. (APS)

The only issue I’ve ever had is when showing customers the LG colour charts they are put off with the brand name “LG”, ie. rather have a Sony TV than an LG one!

Cheers
Macky D

[Hugh Potter]

i recently bought three rolls of LG chem 5-7yr as it was the same price as oracle 651 and i thought i’d give it a go,

i started on a big cut and had no prob, when i went to do a small run of website addresses for a biker club i had a hell of a job to weed it, i got on the phone and swapped em back for oracle which suits me better for the small repeat jobs.

[Peter Normington]

Drag-on
not biased either way. but did you do a test cut and set up your plotter for LG? diferent thickness etc effect the cut and the weeding properties.
Peter

[Hugh Potter]

i’ve learned to only do a test cut when changing brands, in this case i did do as i’d been using oracle earlier on, but in fairness, the design is real small and tricky, oracle lends itself great to smaller work, i’m not saying its bad vinyl or owt, it just didnt suit my need for something that would weed small…. we’re talking about 225mm x 30mm with a stylised sports bike logo,

[Jayne Marsh]

Ive used Lg Chem for small stuff, 7mm lettering, and had no problem weeding it

[Hugh Potter]

its not so much the lettering that was the problem, the text was tween 20 and 30mm tall, about 3mm thick, it was the bike logo that was tricky, the bike logo was their design, made of lots of swooshy lines that came to points, giving a stylised bike image, these (2mm max) lines were lifting all the time, i spent so much time on one batch trying to weed the bikes seperate to the text, that i just lost it and threw 30 of em in the bin !

the time saved using oracle over this stuff, in my case, is massive ! i can do 30 stickers in around 1 1/2 hrs with oracle, thats start to finish masked and cut, i spent that on the first 15 with the LG,

like i say, i used it on a big cut with no intricate weeding to do, and it was grrrrreat, just didnt like it for the small stuff,

[John Harding]

To Rob et al

Lets not confuse cheap with nasty, I think you can turn out perfectly good signs and graphics with LG Chem.

This gives you the chance to offer a cheaper price or increase your margin without dumbing down the trade or offering an inferior product.
I for one want my customers coming back long term.

All the above IMHO

John 😛