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  • Do you bother to laminate canvasses?

    Posted by James Breeze on 20 December 2010 at 10:46

    I really hate having to do canvasses but occasionally there’s one I can’t get out of. We use a Canon pigment based printer for them & the result is great colours etc. etc & with the modern inks they’re on a par with eco-sols for scratch resistance.

    What bothers me is that the liquid laminate/varnish stuff is a pain to use. Waiting for it to dry, it causes shrinkage & to cap it all I reckon it makes the images look far worse than the bare print.

    Is there actually a need to laminate these flamin’ things seeing as they won’t fade, will be stuck up on the wall so won’t see any abrasion and are waterproof etc. etc.
    I’ve heard it said that it’s to allow cleaning but I’ve never gone near any of my canvasses with a duster or polish in my life.

    I think I’m just trying to justify not doing it really……….whatd’ya think?

    Martin Oxenham replied 14 years, 8 months ago 6 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Gareth Hankinson

    Member
    20 December 2010 at 14:44

    Ive been making a load of them for Christmas, using eco sol max inks and not one has ever been laminated since i started doing them and they look great, i personally wouldn’t waste my time liquid laminating them. I may be wrong but ive never had any come back from a customer.

  • Derek Heron

    Member
    20 December 2010 at 16:01

    i saw one of the quick frame set ups at my local shopping mall and they were blasting the canvasses with hair lacquer
    as gareth has said tho ecosol max inks decent canvass profile and no problems so far

    derek

  • Andrew Martin

    Member
    20 December 2010 at 17:00

    I find that a liquid laminate/varnish does enhance the canvas print, but if you use a Matt finish you wont see much or any difference
    as it only serves to protect the ink from so called fading, but a gloss or satin finish offers a finish that is pleasing to the eye as well as
    offering protection of the print.
    For normal photo to canvas prints i would not bother, but for certain customers who want that fine art look on real canvas then yes its necessary.

    Another thing to note is that not all liquid laminates/varnishes are compatible with certain polyester/cotton mix canvases as it can scratch easily or peel off.

  • James Breeze

    Member
    20 December 2010 at 17:19

    You’re right about peeling, did have that once but with a change to a good quality varnish we haven’t had it again.

    On the finish I can get Satin and even Gloss canvas so it really negate the need for coating to give the desired finish.

    It’s good to know others aren’t coating, I’ve been trying to find out if the high street shops bother and so far it looks like a ‘no’ too.

  • Ezekiel Ikhinmiwn

    Member
    10 January 2011 at 11:38

    Hi James and All

    We have printed a few canvases with our pigment ink printer… When we picked up the printer the fella said he would usually give them a once over with a can of car lacquer – You just have to be mindful that you give it an even layer otherwise it can be quite obvious. Needs to be a well vented space as well… I’m sure that stuff is quite toxic… but when it’s been all said and done we have never had any complaints. 🙄

    Eze

  • Martin Oxenham

    Member
    10 January 2011 at 14:40

    We use Mr Sheen polish the same as we do on banners. Once polished it will not scratch. You can always tell the customer to polish it now and again to help protect it as most people will give it a clean across the top when dusting.

  • James Breeze

    Member
    10 January 2011 at 16:43

    Mr Sheen??? That’s a new one on me…… 😮

    any particular flavour or fragrance?

  • Martin Oxenham

    Member
    10 January 2011 at 17:02

    I think it only comes in one flavour…….Print on a banner or canvas and when it drys scratch it with your nail, it will scratch off easily. Now polish it with Mr Sheen or any other furniture polish. Now try to scratch it !.
    We always spray it on and rub over with a cloth, instead of leaving it to dry we dry it with a heat gun this seems to leave it not so waxy but still gives it a hard protective layer.
    Ideal for banners when you have to work on them on the bench for hemming and eyeletting. Obviously it won’t last for years outdoors but its ideal for the short term.

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