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  • Dimension 200 Headache

    Posted by Colin Cumber on 21 August 2012 at 12:04

    Hi all

    I need a bit of help with a Gerber D200 we recently purchased.

    It is running Engravelab software but the problem we have is getting the Z axis working correctly.

    If I turn the machine on, set the home position and then set up the Z Init, now I’m told this was done by releasing the Z axis and putting a 3 mm piece of material under the tool and then press the Z init again, so far so good, there is a file that is set up to cut a circle and an oblong plus engrave gerber spandex router or some such text, but it will not lower the tool far enough to cut out the full depth of the material it only appear to be the same depth as the text.

    I tried using the software (EngraveLab) and just did A B C and adjusted the tool height through from 0.2, 0.4 0.6 ect up to about 1.5mm where it appeared it was not cutting any deeper regardless of what depth I entered, the material I want to cut is about 5mm thick.

    What am I doing wrong 🙄 any advice will be gratefully accepted.

    Thanks in advance.

    😕

    David Rowland replied 13 years, 3 months ago 4 Members · 21 Replies
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  • David Rowland

    Member
    21 August 2012 at 13:37

    Ok, well I guess ur the person who had the ‘ebay’ one with the twin heads.

    The Z on our was a wheel at the top that allows you to fine tune it, if I recall correctly you had to put a ‘wedge’ on top of the material and then find the depth to setup the Z by adjusting the top-screw. However we would have no problem with the "below bottom" settings on ours. Our machine has been off for many years so don’t remember the exact sequence.

  • David Rowland

    Member
    21 August 2012 at 13:39

    Ok, well I guess ur the person who had the ‘ebay’ one with the twin heads.

    The Z on our was a wheel at the top that allows you to fine tune it, if I recall correctly you had to put a ‘wedge’ on top of the material and then find the depth to setup the Z by adjusting the top-screw. However we would have no problem with the "below bottom" settings on ours. Our machine has been off for many years so don’t remember the exact sequence.

  • Colin Cumber

    Member
    21 August 2012 at 16:09

    He He

    Is there anyone who hadn’t seen this on Ebay he he, it was in a bit if a state when we got it and we’ve had to do quite a lot of work to make it presentable, the stand was just rubbish made from monkey metal so we have replaced that so its all a bit more stable.

    We have the stepped block but I’m sure in the manual in one part it says put the step on top of the work piece and elsewhere it says next to it.

    I assume that if the material to be worked is 5mm thick do you put the step on the top and rest the tool on the step closest to 5mm even though the step that says 4.76 measures with a vernier 8.13 how does that work?

    Am I setting the Z-Init up correctly?

    What software did you use with your D200 and how did that work for you?

    Cheers
    Colin

  • Fred McLean

    Member
    23 August 2012 at 09:59

    If your using the supplied blocks they sit on the bed of the router, if coming off the material use a bit of 3mm foamex or similar.
    The Z& Y axis motors are the same if you swap em around to check if they both work properly.

    F

  • Colin Cumber

    Member
    23 August 2012 at 10:10

    Thanks Fred

    We think we found the problem, school boy error & steep learning curve.

    What it appeared to be we were trying to do too much with one pass, we should of had it set to do multi pass, instead with one pass it would only go so deep and stop regardless of the set depth.

    What is the general consensus on a good reasonably priced software that will work with a Gerber D200.

    Cheers guys
    Colin 😛

  • David Rowland

    Member
    23 August 2012 at 10:21

    as the machine doesn’t understand G-Code, we are limited to what software u can use.

    Engravelab possibly will be a good choice.

    The omega original software is "okay" lol

  • Fred McLean

    Member
    23 August 2012 at 11:32

    im running artpath which is part of gerber omega

  • Colin Cumber

    Member
    23 August 2012 at 12:05

    Hi Guys

    We are running engrave lab and it appears to be working ok now we have an inkling of what we are doing.

    Are there any good suppliers of tools at sensible prices, we looked and the variation in cost is horrific…. 😕

    Thanks for you help guys.

    Colin :lol1:

  • Fred McLean

    Member
    23 August 2012 at 14:07

    Cromwell Apex sometimes do special offers on cutters, as low as £4 each if you catch them at the right time 😀

  • Colin Cumber

    Member
    23 August 2012 at 15:49

    Thanks Fred

    Another thing I’m looking for is on the side if the machine was a pick-up for the air line / coolant system but the bowl for the coolant is missing, where can I get spares like this, is there a 2nd hand spares market for this stuff?

    I would like to get some cooling as I want to engrave aluminium ans maybe the odd bit of stainless.

    Is there an alternative to the misting system that has a price that wont make me fall over. 😮

    Thanks

    Colin

  • Fred McLean

    Member
    23 August 2012 at 16:04

    I only use the mist cooling system when cutting ally, haven’t tried stainless yet!!!!

    For engrving ally and stainless i just give the material a squirt of WD40 now & again to give the cutter a bit of lubrication.

    F

  • David Rowland

    Member
    23 August 2012 at 16:38

    we use this, not the greatest but sorta works. Mainly use on metals.
    http://www.fanevalleystores.com/product … tor-SA2001

  • Fred McLean

    Member
    24 August 2012 at 07:01

    think it might be the tank that holds the actual coolant he’s after Dave.
    That’s what i thought he’s looking for anyway (!)

  • Colin Cumber

    Member
    29 August 2012 at 13:23

    Hi Guys

    I purchased a air lubricator like the one Dave sent me a link for but what is the best lubricant/coolant to use, I contacted Gerber and asked about the special Gerber Red goop but they didn’t seem to know what I was talking about 🙄

    I want to use this in Ali & Stainless what is the best thing to put in the tank.

    What are you using Dave?

    Many Thanks

    Colin
    :lol1:

  • Fred McLean

    Member
    30 August 2012 at 10:27

    Here you go Colin, this is the coolant we use. 😀

    http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/cutting-fluids/3888500/

  • Colin Cumber

    Member
    30 August 2012 at 10:58

    Hi Fred

    Thanks for that, will this be ok to use with our new air/oiler thingy.

    Cheers.

    Colin.

  • Fred McLean

    Member
    30 August 2012 at 11:58

    That air reservoir is only a connection between your compressor and the tank, there wont be any coolant going through that (!)

    F

  • Martin Pearson

    Member
    30 August 2012 at 14:23

    Could be wrong Fred but I got the impression Dave was using it to air cool the cutting bit, the oil would just help with lubrication. I know some people do use air cooling systems which is why I thought Dave had said that it sort of works.

  • Fred McLean

    Member
    30 August 2012 at 14:28

    Oooops, had a closer look at that link Martin.
    Looks like it’s a double reservoir thing,so looks like Dave was spot on 😳

  • Colin Cumber

    Member
    31 August 2012 at 08:19

    Hi Guys

    As you say it is like a double trap but the oil goes in the 2nd one, I put a light oil in there and we have a flexi hose pointing at the tool, when I run the air now I get a small amount of oil in the air, if I put a piece of paper on the bed and move it around it leaves an oily thin line so it does work as Dave said, the amount of oil is adjustable on the 2nd regulator part, so far so good.
    I want to engrave on ali sheets and also make some holes of 6mm and 10mm dia suggestions for the best tools to use would be useful.

    Thanks 😛

  • David Rowland

    Member
    31 August 2012 at 13:11

    yep, thats the one… its just a little moisture thing

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