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Create your own printmodes using an i1
This is not a question but rather an answer.
I’ve been making my own Print Modes for Signlab for a few years now and have just posted a lengthy step by step tutorial complete with pics over at the Cadlink forum.
Look for it in the tutorials section.I’d like to hear your thoughts or comments here. I’d especially like it if there was someone who could actually test it out with an i1 and Eye One Match software.
Any SL/VPM users out there who have tried to make their own print modes?
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I’ll look at this. Just waiting to order an i1. I had one ordered from the states but they canceled my order due to no stock. The joy.
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Awesome Neil. Reinforces a few things. I will be building my profiles for versaworks for all my print modes and all my media.
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same i want one… and on fleabay, they had one with 1000patch swing arm, went for £565 and i was gutten as its worth about £2000
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doesnt work with signlab, but worth a look at
http://www.spire-digital.co.uk/index.ph … &Itemid=53Peter
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Jason, Isn’t it better to order you i1 from Singapore. I bought mine i1 Xtreme from Bits & Bytes for US$1495 they also have the Colour Munki for US$499
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu0qUb4J … L&index=24
Neil we use our Xrite i1 to create icc profiles in wasatch softrip.
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Thanks for having a look Jason. I guess doing it in Versaworks would be fairly similar.
And Andre does it all in Wasatch.
You can do it all within Signlab too, but the problem I’ve had with Signlab’s own generated output icc’s is they tend to be oversaturated in yellows/reds.
However, when I print the Eye One Match targets and use Eye One Match to build the output profile, they come out beautifully.I’m thinking it may be because Eye One Match compensates for the UV whereas Signlab may not?
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quote Neil Riley:Thanks for having a look Jason. I guess doing it in Versaworks would be fairly similar.
And Andre does it all in Wasatch.
You can do it all within Signlab too, but the problem I’ve had with Signlab’s own generated output icc’s is they tend to be oversaturated in yellows/reds.
However, when I print the Eye One Match targets and use Eye One Match to build the output profile, they come out beautifully.I’m thinking it may be because Eye One Match compensates for the UV whereas Signlab may not?
I don’t have the UV cut filter.Hey Neil,
I don’t think it has anything to do with the software. Most canned profiles are created on a certain printer with a certain stock. Changes in the white points and the printers themselves will all have an affect on the output across different prints even in the same model.
That’s why its important to create ICC profiles for each media and each individual printer you have even if they are the same model using the same inks. Also pretty sure you should recreate them every so often in case the environmental conditions have changes or changes to the stock.
That’s the biggest reason I want to take the ICC profile creation process in house instead of out sourcing it.
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Am I right in saying that you would need the I One Extreme kit to complete the above and that it would contain everything I need.
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Yes Gordon, you need i1 extreme and ProfileMaker or Monaco profiler software.
This link explain how to create you icc profile in Wasatch
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so Jason (or anyone for that matter),
how accurate is one print on vinyl from one printer to the next? (i think you got more then one manfuacturer/model printer)For instance, I am looking at Oce flatbed printers and want to get a proofer to simulate the Oce flatbed using Simulation printing process, but if it doesn’t work then bin it.
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Dave I’ve used the i1 to make profiles for my old Roland printer with 3rd party bulk inks (ITL EPS) and now for the new Mimaki printer with OEM inks (Eco HS1) and the output colours are pretty close.
My CMYK swatches are similar as are bitmap images.
The Mimaki yellow is stronger though which gives better yellows/oranges/reds.
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quote Dave Rowland:so Jason (or anyone for that matter),
how accurate is one print on vinyl from one printer to the next? (i think you got more then one manfuacturer/model printer)For instance, I am looking at Oce flatbed printers and want to get a proofer to simulate the Oce flatbed using Simulation printing process, but if it doesn’t work then bin it.
Dave thats correct. Different things can affect the available colour gamut and they would include the single and total ink limits set and the inks themselves. A wider colour gamut should allow you to hit more colours. Thats why cast materials are good you can have high ink limits and thus a wider colour gamut.
My XC540 with white which is a 4 colour machine can give me a very close match to my 6 colour soljet.
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