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    Posted by Cian O'Reilly on 25 June 2010 at 07:24

    Hi There,

    I am applying graphics to a car for my own customer (i am not a company owner though) and he wants me to clean down his vehicle in standard thinners! he obviously wants to save money but I am completely reluctant to use this as I believe it will dull the paintwork. as he is supplying all the material, I don’t want to lose out on the job, but he will not supply anything else. first of all, what will thinners do to the paintwork?In my own experience, I have never used it and don’ want to try it, and secondly, is there an alternative economical remover? I have always used a wurth adhesive remover but he won’t fork out for this.

    advice appreciated

    John Harding replied 15 years, 4 months ago 7 Members · 9 Replies
  • 9 Replies
  • Jason Xuereb

    Member
    25 June 2010 at 08:09

    Sorry don’t understand your question. Clean down his vehicle from what? Dirt? Old adhesive? Mud? Tar? Teflon Protection?

  • David Rogers

    Member
    25 June 2010 at 08:47

    So – at a guess.

    He’s got the graphics from somewhere else (cheap).
    He’s got some cellulose thinners lying around (nearly free).
    He’s expecting you to apply the graphics (presumably cheap).

    …and wanting a perfect job done…

    If he won’t fork out for £8 worth of proper thinners to do the job – refuse.

    It’s YOUR ass on the line if you trash his paintwork. He’s not a fitter so what would he know about pre-application prep.

    Using cell thinners is possible to wipe it down with – just not great for removing adhesive, tar etc. as it attacks the paintwork at the same time.

    You sound desperate for the job and if funds are super tight…adhesive & tar remover = unleaded petrol. Then major soapy degrease before application.

    Isopropyl Alcohol or even methylated spirits are good pre application ‘wipe down’ solvents that won’t attack paintwork unless it’s overdone.

    But to be honest, by he time you faff around – you could have bought the proper stuff and tagged it onto his bill…assuming you haven’t already quoted him.
    …how cheap IS this wrap that some solvents can’t be bought for your own stock? Not one of these £150 to wrap a sprinter including materials is it!

  • Matty Goodwin

    Member
    25 June 2010 at 17:55

    I agree with David.

    Sounds like a ‘bodge’ job.

    If you havn’t got cleaning products how do you do your every day job?

    I wouldn’t use thinners, even if it meant loosing the job.

    Matt

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    25 June 2010 at 20:05

    I am just a bit confused here.
    if you are capable of doing a wrap, surely you should know how to prep?
    Peter

  • Matty Goodwin

    Member
    25 June 2010 at 20:16

    Makes you wonder eh, Peter….

    No offence ‘greenhills’ but the guys here are hard working committed sign makers/vinyl workers.

    Is this a serious question?

    Regards

    Matt

  • Jill Marie Welsh

    Member
    25 June 2010 at 21:34

    Once I cleaned something with thinner and then Windex.
    I applied the vinyl.
    (it was my own truck and I was in a hurry)
    Guess what came off when I removed the vinyl 6 months later?
    The clear coat!
    Fun times.
    Do it right or don’t do it at all.
    What you save in cleaner you’ll pay for with a new paint job.
    Love….Jill

  • Cian O'Reilly

    Member
    26 June 2010 at 07:39

    Hi Guys,

    Thanks for the replies. Reading back on my initial post I can see the bit of confusion – it was 8.30 in the morning after all! 🙂

    I am an experienced fitter and am currently setting myself up as a freelance fitter. I normally work in sign shop conditions where the correct adhesive removers and cleaners are provided for me, however this particular customer is a franchise owner and got all his vinyl supplied to him.Obviously he wants to save on as much material costs as possible. As he wasn’t happy with the price I gave him for cleaning products, it seems he went off and did his own "research" on how to clean and remove adhesive from his vehicle on a budget.

    I would never want to risk using a product I was unsure of and so wanted to get some opinions on here just before I walked away from the job.

    Subsequently I have decided to give this job a miss as in the long run it will not be worth doing it on the cheap and being responsible for that.

  • Matty Goodwin

    Member
    26 June 2010 at 11:54

    Fair play to you mate, and good luck with the freelance.

    There’s alot of competition out there!

    Matt

  • John Harding

    Member
    26 June 2010 at 17:57
    quote :

    Subsequently I have decided to give this job a miss as in the long run it will not be worth doing it on the cheap and being responsible for that.

    way to go Greenhills :appl: wish more people that come on here asking questions would do this but sadly I think they dont

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