Cement and Vinyl

[Andy Gorman]

I don’t know the answer but I have a customer who is also a cement carrier and he INSISTS on painted signwriting. He will absolutely not accept vinyl. I’ve never asked why, but maybe he has had a problem such as you describe. I just use paintmask and paint it on.

[Harry Cleary]

Cheers Andy, yeh he does ‘insist’ so he must have had a bad experience, I havent signwritten a truck in 2 yrs and there is that much writing and pinstriping on it, I could do with a few shortcuts. 😀

[Andy Gorman]

The first thing that springs to mind is the large amount of heat that cement can give off. I could quite believe that it could affect vinyl. It’s a funny old thing, cement.

[Shane Drew]

Our cement trucks here are signed in vinyl, but I know there is an issue with the caustic cleaning chemicals they use to clean the trucks at the end of the day.

I think they got over that by changing to a non caustic chemical, because they are still using vinyl signs, and the trucks are washed every day.

[Kevin Flowers]

Hi
i have done 4 cement trucks over the last year in Oracle 751 without no problems to now. i will say that these had only just been painted when i signed them & they where sitting still for a week after being written.
So maybe it had a chance to bite on with out being subject to the cement heat & dust

Kev

[Harry Cleary]

Thanks for the advice lads. Just spent the day pinstriping it, strewth!!! Signing it tomorrow.

[Terry Bull]

ive painted a good few barrels ,usually when they are shot blasted to remove old cement spills prior to repainting the surface is not’ too’ (for peter ) smooth enough for vinyl to bite

paint sticks like ……..

Have only put vinyls on the cabs

Terry

[Harry Cleary]

thanks Terry, love the website btw, what do you use to protect the chalkboards?

[Terry Bull]

Hi Harry
Nothing goes on the chalkboards
had no problems inside or out

Unless they’re sited under flower boxes with sprinklers

Terry

[Harry Cleary]

quote Andy Gorman:

I just use paintmask and paint it on.

Well I finished the truck and used ordinary vinyl as a mask for the phone numbers and circle thingy’s (will post pic in another forum) which didnt seem ideal as it was difficult to remove the mask, I want to get a roll of mask in stock for this purpose, what would you recomend for this Andy?
Thanks every one for your help, customer was delighted with this and more are in the pipeline, although I hate his layout. All those phone numbers and no mention of what he does!

[Jill Marie Welsh]

I bid on cement trucks once, and I was told that the barrels must be painted due to what they are cleaned with (some kind of acid)
Love….Jill

[Dave Bruce]

I have done a few cement trucks over the last 3 years and had no problems

Cheers

Dave

[Harry Cleary]

Cheers Dave and Jill, i think some plants wash with a caustic solution and that is what causes the problems.

[Shane Drew]

quote Harry Cleary:

Cheers Dave and Jill, i think some plants wash with a caustic solution and that is what causes the problems.

Our bulk cement carriers here are painted with a few clear coats, and some of the cement trucks are too. Cement dust can destroy normal automotive paint in very short time.

As I said earlier, caustic chemicals are the key to the whole thing. 😕

[Harry Cleary]

are they clear coated over painted signwritng and vinyl Shane?

[Shane Drew]

quote Harry Cleary:

are they clear coated over painted signwritng and vinyl Shane?

Most are clear coated over the hand painted signwriting, yes. The vinyl ones are signed over the clear coat, so they can get replaced when needed.