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Can I wrap on a newly painted and baked vehicle?
Hello
I have been given a New Zealand Rural Post ute today that has had some of its panels repainted following an accident, and it needs to be re-wrapped in Avery Supreme Carmine Red.
When I came to wipe it down with Isopropyl and a 3M microfibre cloth, the cloth was not gliding over the paintwork as normal, but it seemed to be grabbing and sticky.
I phoned the painters, who said it was painted yesterday, and then baked in an oven, and they said it was as finished as it ever would be, and it should be fine. They even questioned whether it was actually Iso I was using – which it most definitely was.
I tried a test section with vinyl and it seems to stick perfectly well.
Problem is it needs to be back on its rounds the day after tomorrow, and I am going away next week.
Should I risk wrapping it or will it fail?
I think I already know the answer but I would like to hear it from somebody else :awkward: -
5 Replies
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I’ve always been under the impression that it should be left a few weeks.
You’ll probably get the vinyl down fine, the problem will possibly occur when it comes to removing it.
We rebranded a fleet of vehicles, and when we removed the vinyl from one, it pulled the paint away, the customer was adamant it hadn’t been resprayed, the driver kindly informed us that it had been rear ended and the door was resprayed, and it came back from the body shop all signed back up.
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I would be wary of doing it particularly as you say it doesn’t feel right yet and is still a bit sticky. If the paint continues to out gas bubbles will appear in the vinyl a few days later (ask me how I know).
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Agree with david. Ive always been told 2 weeks from new paint job
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"Minimum" of two weeks, but I have heard of up to 4-5 weeks after the paint appears to be "cured".
The issue is outgassing, while outgassing occurs, all sorts are happening that is not visible to the eye, nor touch/feel.
let’s say you apply vinyl over an A4 bit of freshly painted metal. you are in effect sealing the top of the paintwork.
the fumes/gases/vapours, whatever you want to call them, have to escape as the paint releases its chemical fumes.
It cannot, so it creates bubbles underneath the vinyl which was not there when applied, as it happens over days, weeks even.
not only this, it has adverse effects on the adhesive itself making the vinyl lose its adhesion in areas it needs it most like in a recess. so it delaminates and fails. it can also make the vinyl appear to shrink excessively, leaving the surface to wrinkle up and shrink up to an inch or more! granted I have seen massive fails like this more with laminated the prints done too soon after printing. but the effects are the same.i could go on and on… but the bottom line is, outline this to your customer and if it fails you are not to blame!
proceed, take the gamble and you may lose big time if things don’t go to plan! -
NO….at least 4 weeks off gassing for a wrap. I had one weld on…horrible mess.
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