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  • Can I use my FC8000 to cut prints from my Gerber edge 2?

    Posted by TimDouglas on 31 July 2012 at 20:54

    Hi folks not posted in a while but was looking a yes or no, we have a fc8000 cutter and a Gerber Edge 2 which runs with Omega 1.56 ( an old version ) I wanted to know if its possible to take the prints from the Gerber and somehow cut them on the FC8000, we have a GSX plotter but some of the thick jobs we do the print will not sit close to the sprockets or cut deep enough to cut it out, the FC8000 has no problems cutting the graphics. With the limitation of the Gerber being 300mm and the FC8000 putting down registration marks that would take the print to 350mm Im not sure its possible, thanks for any brain waves you may have. If it was possible to upgrade software etc I would do that if it would help, I must add I need the maximum 300mm prints on the edge I can’t reduce them to 250 to suit.
    Tim

    Chris Wool replied 13 years, 2 months ago 3 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Jason Davies

    Member
    31 July 2012 at 21:27

    Hi Tim, I just checked my sent items in my 4edgetalk account and for some reason the email I sent you straight away after you emailed me on May 12th didn’t send. It’s still in my outbox. Any way here is a copy. I don’t know why it didn’t send originally:

    Hi Tim, it’s really straight forward, you can either print the crop marks directly through Omega – remember to use a black foil or as we did it setup the artwork in illustrator, apply the cutlines using cutting master, it is more complicated as you have to setup two layers, a cutting layer and a print layer. Transfer the artwork including the crop marks into omega and print and then move back to illustrator. If I remember we did the following in cutting master:

    In output settings > Output Selection>Select by layer
    Options >leave
    Plotter settings > leave
    Registration marks > Check the registration marks box and choose 4 to begin with. I found three was better as it seemed to get lost with four.

    You can also choose the shape of the crop marks but I used the standard setup so I could more onto the vinyl.

    Move the optical eye to the inside of the crop mark and set it off. It’s a bit of trial and error but it works.

    We stopped using this method as you could not really run over 2 metres in one go but it should be ideal for your motocross work.

    However I think it would be much easier if you ran it through Omega and applied the Graphtec crop marks instead of the bomebsite. The reason we didn’t was that our Graphtec runs from a Mac and I couldn’t be bothered setting it up on a PC.

    Hope that helps.

    Regards

    Jason

  • Jason Davies

    Member
    31 July 2012 at 21:29

    PS. It would be worth investing in an Envision if you are having problems cutting through thicker materials with the GSX.
    Jason

  • TimDouglas

    Member
    1 August 2012 at 15:31

    I think I know what your doing jason but i need to print 300mm wide once I add the registration marks it takes it to 320mm wide , to wide for the gerber to print? or am i missing something?
    Tim

  • Jason Davies

    Member
    1 August 2012 at 15:51

    Hi Tim, you will have to reduce the size of your prints. Even if you rotate the print marks around you will still lose 10mm. Can’t you rotate the work around? The only other way is to cut on a gerber sprocketed 15" cutter for 300mm jobs. Do you have one?

    Jason

  • TimDouglas

    Member
    1 August 2012 at 16:06

    nearly 90percent of our prints or artwork require the 300mm , We have the GSX15 sprocket cutter but it don’t cut the vinyl the way I would like , its to stiff go go in around the sprockets , stay tight and not move. Don’t fancy the 5k for the Envision when we have a good cutter. thanks for trying anyway jason. Tim

  • Jason Davies

    Member
    1 August 2012 at 16:27

    Hi Tim, two questions:

    1. What vinyl are you using?

    2. Is the cutter you have the tangential cutter or just the swivel blade i.e GSX plus?

    Jason

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    1 August 2012 at 20:01

    tim I really wanted a edge for mx stuff but no matter how I positioned some of the rad shrouds I could not get them to fit, let alone put some reg marks on.
    all my cutting problems when away when I got the flat bed cutter, no hand finishing now di cut perfect.
    you may find a thread of mine how I added a flat meadia path to my fc7000 which helped no end.

  • TimDouglas

    Member
    2 August 2012 at 07:22

    our cuter is the GS15 Plus , the material will def not flow in around the sprockets. Is there a way of dawning in illustrator, Making a reference point ( zero point ) print it on the gerber then bring it back to the Graphtec FC8000 , line it up to the reference point manually and pressing cut ? without looking for Registration points on all four corners. Just like if you were cutting plain Cut vinyl?

    Tim

  • Jason Davies

    Member
    2 August 2012 at 08:22

    No, but signlab may work differently? It maybe worth checking with Impact if that software can work a different way. Or possibly a different cutter?

    I suppose you could cut the registration marks from black vinyl, create your own marking points initially in illustrator and on the ‘vinyl’. Print at 300mm, stick your registration marks on and run it back through illustrator. Depends how complex and accurate the cuts need to be but it could work?

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    3 August 2012 at 23:19
    quote TimDouglas:

    our cuter is the GS15 Plus , the material will def not flow in around the sprockets. Is there a way of dawning in illustrator, Making a reference point ( zero point ) print it on the gerber then bring it back to the Graphtec FC8000 , line it up to the reference point manually and pressing cut ? without looking for Registration points on all four corners. Just like if you were cutting plain Cut vinyl?

    Tim

    don’t know illy frustrator but could do from corel small dot in top corner of the graphic file. knife over it press base point. as long as your cutting driver places the graphic inc the dot at 0,0.
    go one step further print dot top right of the graphic and rotate the graphic 90 deg when loading the graphtec. so using the long edge against the bed edge for extra alignment.

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