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Can I print onto ordinary vinyl ?
Hi
is it ok for me to print images onto ordinary cream vinyl.I’ve got 2 images from istock that my client wants on a very large shop sign.
She wants the main background colour to be cream.
The images do not have transparent backgrounds, they are white and are quite fiddly to alter.
Instead of printing the whole sign with a cream background, I want to know if I can print the images straight onto cream vinyl.
The white background wont show – it will show as cream.
My question is, will the ink be ok on the vinyl and stand up to the weather etc.
Any help really appreciated.
Cheers,
Cheryl 🙂 -
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The main issue will be the cream altering the colours of you images. Everything will take on a darker or cream tint and possibly not look right. Others will be better qualified to answer the durability question but as understand it, there would be no real difference.
G
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Thanks Gavin,
the colour should be reasonably ok.
My main concern is the durability of the print.
Cheers,
Cheryl -
Why not laminate after if its a durability issue?
G
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Cheers George,
I’ll frog juice the image when its completely dry.
All the best,
C x 😀 -
what wbout printing onto clear, then laying onto cream background.
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is this image full colour or just gray scale/black and white?
are you printing using a solvent printer or thermal?
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Hi there,
Rob the image is full colour and I’m using a versacamm with eco inks.As it happens, I printed the graphics onto cream vinyl this afternoon. The image has come out well and I’m pleased with it.
I’ll give the printed area a quick misting of frog juice tomorrow.
Cheers,
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Hi Cheryl,
I print loads of black onto yellow vinyl then ezytaper it onto magnetic for taxi signs.
It prints fine but you might need to try a few profiles to get a good one.
The yellow I printed onto was oracal 651 and got through a full roll in a day.
Seen some of the signs recently and they still look good.Cheers
Joe -
Joe what printer do you have ?? I have been thinking the same thing recently, we do taxi’s black on yellow on to mag’s, is seem more time effective to print it, than cut weed and flood coat yellow, app, and apply 🙄
Lynn
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Versacamm, Lynn.
Your JV3 should be fine as well though.
Just a matter of playing wit a profile that works well.
I use the metamark MD5 profile for lots of stuff like this as it seems to work on really well
Cheers
Joe -
have to try that thanks Joe, you sort of get the impression though that you can’t print onto coloured vinyl as digi comes in white, no one says it you just assume, obviously wrongly. 🙄
Lynn
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I print onto Mactac 8300 all the time. Haven’t had any real issues. I found the eco inks from the Rocky 38 were crap, but the jv3 works fine.
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Hi Karl,
Would you over laminate the 8300 as well, if so what would you typically use ?
Cheers
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I print on Silver, Chrome, Grey and Yellow all the time too.
Only found two consistent issues:
1st) It will give a better result on cal than cast. Cal can be printed off a roll out of the box, but oracal 851 for instance, needs to be cleaned with IPA otherwise it seems to reject the ink sometimes (like a silicon effect).
2nd) Printing a long run will (I print 3 metre lengths on gray) will sometimes have the issue of a fine silicon line across the print giving a lighter colour shift. This happens consistently on the oracal 551 at about the 2 metre mark from my experience. Ive never had it happen on yellow 551 tho. I took this up with the manufactures, and they say that it is not warranted against printing because it is not ‘treated’ to be printed, so they can not guarantee that silicon may not be found on the surface.
They can offer this guarantee on the digi print media though.
I would laminate it tho
Hope that helps
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have printed on to hexis banner vinyl no problems
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Cheers Shane
I’ll give it a go.
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Skip the frog juice and get proper laminate The Oracal stuff is good 290 bout £4 a meter and apply wet for ease of applying no silvering as a result.
just my tuppence
tried all the other ways and proper laminate is the easiest and best way to go.
Goop
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quote Forbie:Skip the frog juice and get proper laminate The Oracal stuff is good 290 bout £4 a meter and apply wet for ease of applying no silvering as a result.
just my tuppence
tried all the other ways and proper laminate is the easiest and best way to go.
Goop
I agree with that too. 290 is very expensive here, I use oracal 215 for my day to day, 290 for vehicle wraps only
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Hi Adam,
If im doing labels I don’t bother laminating. If it’s a van with flat sides then i’ll just use 8300 clear. Sounds cheap I know, but it works and stops the image from getting scratched. It keeps the costs down, client’s happy and as of yet no complaints. 😀
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quote KARL WILLIAMS:Hi Adam,
If im doing labels I don’t bother laminating. If it’s a van with flat sides then i’ll just use 8300 clear. Sounds cheap I know, but it works and stops the image from getting scratched. It keeps the costs down, client’s happy and as of yet no complaints. 😀
only problem with that Karl, is that it does not have much UV protection.
Dedicated laminate is a bit dearer, but the print will last heaps longer, so the cost is probably cheaper over the life of the graphic.
Yellow and red need all the help they can get, to prevent UV fade.
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I agree Shane. When the customer places the order I ask them how long they’ll keep the vehicle. Most say around a couple of years so really not much can happen in that time. The first vans I did doing it this way nearly 19 months ago haven’t had any problems. It also depends on what their budget is as well.
If anything needs a laminate I usually by it from ADS in Nottingham. -
Things fade much quicker here Karl, but I guess as australia has one of the highest UV rates in the world (and the worlds worst skin cancer numbers anywhere in the world) our fade problems are going to be the worst in the world too.
Obviously not a problem there like we have here.
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