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  • can digital prints on banner material be laminated?

    Posted by John Imrie on 20 February 2008 at 20:45

    is there a laminate suitable for printed banners to protect the print from heavy use by a building co.?

    i know i could cut mask and use screen ink but it’s slow and messy!

    has anyone tried frog juice for this although i have a laminator frog juice is great for small jobs

    Shane Drew replied 17 years, 8 months ago 10 Members · 15 Replies
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  • Peter Normington

    Member
    20 February 2008 at 20:58

    John, banners done with solvent ink are pretty durable, dont see why you need to laminate, even if you did, constant rolling and folding would still take its toll, and would have the same effect on the laminate, as the print.
    banners are by their nature a temporary thing,
    Sorry not a lot of help.

    Peter

  • Kevin Flowers

    Member
    20 February 2008 at 21:31

    John
    we use a liquid laminate sometimes does give an added protection, mainly used it on stuff that’s continuously put up & taken down.

    http://www.clearstarcorp.com/clearshield.asp

    Kev

  • Jason Xuereb

    Member
    20 February 2008 at 23:32

    Liquid Laminate all banners here too.

    Two coats works a treat.

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    20 February 2008 at 23:43
    quote Jason Xuereb:

    Liquid Laminate all banners here too.

    Two coats works a treat.

    What advantage does it give Jason?
    and how do you sell the value added benefits to your clients?

    Laminate on a banner just looks unnecessary to me, but would welcome any marketing (read profit) benefits of doing so

    Peter

  • Peter Munday

    Member
    20 February 2008 at 23:47

    I must admit that although I’m using full solvent my banners are still easily marked.

    Peter

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    21 February 2008 at 01:14

    I laminate if they are needing to look good for a while – 9 months or more, or if you need some vibrancy to the print.

    Most companies will laminate here in Qld because of our high UV readings. Short term stuff, I never worry about though.

  • Jason Xuereb

    Member
    21 February 2008 at 08:00

    Peter I send out my banners for finishing. I find that they can get scuffed or marked in this process. If I laminate them it protects it against this.

    This is the only reason I do it. don’t do it to prolong the life of the banner etc.

    I tell the clients its done but it isn’t a selling point.

    I saw one of my banners before I printed about 8 months ago it was one of the first I printed before I started laminating and god was it awful. The amount of abuse it had taken being rolled up etc.

    I really don’t want people see my product and it looking like that.

    Marketing benefit I guess the longer they use it and it looks good the more leads that item could generate.

  • Graeme Speirs

    Member
    21 February 2008 at 10:09

    what about buying in the heavyweight banner material with eyelets and stitching etc and then use cut vinyl? (not sure of your design though so might not be suitable but if its just text?) I find the difference between pritned banners and the hard wearing ones to be night and day, they are bulletproof!

    graeme

  • David Rogers

    Member
    21 February 2008 at 10:15

    When I first started doing printed banners – they were incredibly easily marked during ‘finishing’. Turned oout I just needed to ramp the heat up to max to get better ink (full solvent) penetration…

    I also took to printing on the TEXTURED side as if just being lighty surface scuffed, all the ink down in the hollows is unaffected.

    I thought very briefly about using a liquid laminate on banners…but as they are temporary was just more hassle for not enough money.

    Dave

  • Martin Oxenham

    Member
    21 February 2008 at 11:10

    Just use furniture polish (Mr Sheene) This works brilliant. If you scratch the banner with your nail and see how easy it scratches off. Now use the spray polish and buff and its impossible to scratch. Not sure how long this lasts outdoors but for getting the banner finished its perfect.

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    22 February 2008 at 04:58

    That’s interesting Martin, what type of ink and banner do you use?

  • Nick Walker

    Member
    22 February 2008 at 10:11

    Hi Guys

    I’ve been producing digital banners for 10 years+ now and never laminated any of them.

    Never had a problem with ink coming off. IMO all down to the right ink on the right material with the right profiles.

    Cheers. Nick.

  • Peter Munday

    Member
    22 February 2008 at 10:26

    Martin I just tried the polish, and I have to say it worked 😮 😮 😮 can’t scratch it at all.

    Peter

  • Martin Oxenham

    Member
    22 February 2008 at 10:57

    We use Roland Ecosolvent Max but have used the same trick on full solvent.

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    22 February 2008 at 12:14
    quote Nick Walker:

    Never had a problem with ink coming off. IMO all down to the right ink on the right material with the right profiles.

    Cheers. Nick.

    Only one time I had ink come off, and that was using eco ink, with a poor quality material.

    Now I use good quality material, never had a an issue, even though I send them out to be finished. Helps that my finisher only does banners, for all sign shops, so treats them with respect I guess.

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