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  • can anyone help with D60 cutting question please?

    Posted by Stephen Benson on 1 April 2005 at 00:02

    Anybody had this problem with their Summacutter D60. Trying to cut 50M rolls at a time, actual design is 1 metre long so doing repeats but the machine always stops after 8 metre’s, giving the message that the page size has been reached and does the operator want to continue? – Operator has tried changing the page size manually before sending the cut file through (out of WinPlot) but always stops after 8 Metre’s. If operator accepts the prompt to continue the machine will do approx 16M the second time before stopping again and then 8M the time after. Does anyone have any idea’s about how this can be fixed? – Or anyone got an engineering contact at Summa? – Steve.

    Stephen Benson replied 20 years, 6 months ago 5 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Gary Davis

    Member
    1 April 2005 at 07:18

    hi steve,

    i have read about this somewhere, but cant remember where, think we have similar setup to you summa d60 run through winplot plugin.

    i believe the maximum length you can output from winplot is 8 metres per job. Its is the prgram itself limited not anything to do with settings or cutter as far as im aware

    DTG

  • Paul Rollason

    Member
    1 April 2005 at 07:28

    Hi Steve

    At the top of the screen in summa winplot, next to the cut button is one that looks like a roll of vinyl.

    I think you can use this to give it the length of the roll.

    The defult setting is 8 m

    paul r

  • Gary Davis

    Member
    1 April 2005 at 09:22

    Hi paul,

    how do you get the input of vinyl length to work?

    Whenever i have tryed that in past anything above 8000mm it comes up with “Specified length to long for cutter”

    cheers
    dtg

  • Simon Clayton

    Member
    1 April 2005 at 09:26

    Can’t you just cut 8 then replot another 8?? just by pressing one button ?

    Simon

  • Gary Davis

    Member
    1 April 2005 at 10:01

    hi simon

    can do but if cutting say 12 metre lorry graphics for instance can be troublesome, have spoken to Summa support and they are sending me info on getting it to cut longer lengths in one go, 8 metres is guaranteed tracking within so many .’s of a mil but it can do more. will let you know what they say steve

  • Simon Clayton

    Member
    1 April 2005 at 11:06

    Good point Dgt,
    My machine would never cut that long without running off, so i would have to cut in sections… then again I’ve never had a one peace vinyl graphic more than 3m long…
    I don’t trust these machine to cut long lengths without supervision, one company i worked for, had a print machine, they had been told it could run unattended until the media run out. They left it printing all night, came in the next morning to find 50m X 1220mm of print all stuck together on the floor in a heap…the uptake roller had jammed

    Simon

  • Gary Davis

    Member
    1 April 2005 at 12:47

    that was an expensive nights sleep then!!! 😕

    the need to run this length is pretty rare admittidly but would be good to have the ability to run it. Its on a stand so trust it upto about 4 metres on its own, thing is it can kink the vinyl if it doesnt curve when it starts to gather on the floor. do you use a d60 simon?

  • Simon Clayton

    Member
    1 April 2005 at 13:45

    No mate, got a roland camm1 pnc1100, 610 wide, old but works really well.
    Normally what i do, is run out the amount needed for the job in question then run it back to the start, so hopefully it will stay on track (so far it has).

    I’ve also got a machine that is really old….20 years or more, still going strong, 1000mm wide only trouble is the blade sits over the main drive roller, which has a grit coating to grip the vinyl, so when the vinyl runs off the machine still carries on cutting on the grit roller… many a blade have gone that way.. at least with the roland it has sensors so it the vinyl runs off the machine stops..

    Simon

  • Gordon Forbes

    Member
    1 April 2005 at 20:38

    I have a D60 and half the speed to stop it chewing vinyl as it occaisionally did also I turned off the automatic pre feed so all it does is measure the width of the vinyl and I manually motor through the page size needed just to check it if you dont do that it comes up with an error in the X plane I think it says. I just prefer doing it this way not so much kinks (not that it makes much difference anyway they disappear when applied).

    Should check your origin and end I personally don’t use wincut though but you should have Summa cutter control installed as well to set it up don’t you? easierto set it there you can change a lot of settings there.

    Goop

  • Stephen Benson

    Member
    2 April 2005 at 20:58

    Thanks for your help guys. Be nice if Summa chipped in. Steve.

  • Paul Rollason

    Member
    6 April 2005 at 09:36

    Hi Steve

    I think the problem is with winplot

    I have been talking to andy at victory design and he is trying to come up with a solution.

    I should find out today so I will let you know

    paul r

  • Gary Davis

    Member
    6 April 2005 at 12:13

    i have spoken to summa they too say its winplot limiting it to 8metres as this is the gauranteed tracking length for the d60

    the head not always returning to the origin on the right hand side is also winplot they said a new revision should be out to cure this (not the 8m limit) in couple of months

  • Stephen Benson

    Member
    7 April 2005 at 09:04

    Thanks Guys: Also got this back from Summa:

    From: Summa
    Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2005 8:52 a.m.
    Subject: Cutting length

    Stephen,

    8 meters, or 26 feet, is our guaranteed cutting length on the SummaCut D60, therefore, a limit was set in WinPlot to stop at the end of the tracking guarantee and let the user decided to continue further. This is a limitation only with WinPlot, so try another software program to see if it solves the problem.

    Best regards,

    Technical Support

    Summa Inc

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