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  • can anyone help with a roland PC-60 problem please?

    Posted by ryanewen on 5 June 2007 at 18:32

    Hi People,

    Just bought a Roland PC-60. It cuts vinyl fine but won’t print.

    I bought it in working order but never had a demo.

    I tried a print cut test and it wont do it. The print head goes to pick up the cartridge but can’t. It makes certain noises but can’t physically pick the cartridge up.

    All the drivers are fine and i’m running corel draw x3.

    Could really do with some advice

    Thanks

    Ryan

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  • Martin Pearson

    Member
    5 June 2007 at 19:48

    Have you tried contacting Roland and asking for their advice?
    Was it sold as a working printer or was it sold to you with a known fault?

    If it was sold as a working machine then I would try and get a refund or at least get the person who sold it to you to sort it out, personally I would get a refund as these are quite old machines that Roland no longer support so getting spares is only going to get more difficult, there are still people using them and one of them might be more help.

    Might also be a good idea to pop in the hello forum and introduce yourself, you will get more help from members if you do as a lot of people just like to know who they are talking to.

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    5 June 2007 at 22:03

    you might as well tell him to chuck it in the bin martin not a very helpful reply.

    ryan sound like you moved the head after it set up.
    so switch it off at the main switch reset the vinyl and switch it on followed by the sub power switch.
    it should the set its self, do a test print.

    let us know

    chris

  • Peter Mindham

    Member
    5 June 2007 at 22:04

    Check the cartridges are placed in the correct way in the holders also.

    peter

  • Martin Pearson

    Member
    5 June 2007 at 22:18

    You are entitled to your opinion Mr Wool but I personally don’t think it was that unhelpful, OK I have no idea how to fix his printer but as I have pointed out they are quite old machines and there have been quite a few people on the boards struggling to find heads for them. If I bought a printer and it didn’t work the first thing I would do would be to contact the seller.
    I also pointed out that an introduction would help him and that someone who owned a machine would probably be along and be of more help.

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    5 June 2007 at 22:50
    quote :

    If I bought a printer and it didn’t work the first thing I would do would be to contact the seller.

    it just sounds like a normal new user common fault.

    as far as pc60s go mine is 10 years old still does stuff my soljet cant, and contributes £s of profit each month, i also have a spare new head in the draw.
    having said that i would probably not advise someone to buy one today.

    chris

  • Gavin MacMillan

    Member
    6 June 2007 at 07:15

    I agree Chris is sounds like head alignment although this could need set up following the manual as ours used to go out of alignment sometimes and needed some very small adjustments.

    Read the manual and do the alignment set up – let it run 3 or 4 times while watching the head to make sure it stays aligned. I’m fairly sure this will sort it if resetting as Chris said hasn’t worked

    G

  • ryanewen

    Member
    6 June 2007 at 15:51

    I will give it a go and let you know.

    Thats hopefully all thats wrong is the miss alignment

    Ryan

  • ryanewen

    Member
    6 June 2007 at 16:41

    Alright People,

    Can someone tell me how to align the print head as its not in my manual.

    The printer is hanging over the edge of the window and i’m getting closer to pushing it over!

    Regards

    Ryan

  • Gavin MacMillan

    Member
    6 June 2007 at 18:26

    I’ll look tomorrow, I’m sure it’s in the manual though. You have to take the cover off and play with some settings. Then you set the machine to do a test with 1 cart in. It picks this up and moves along to the next holder, puts it in then takes it out again and so on. I’ll post in tomorrow if I can find the info.

    G

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    6 June 2007 at 18:35

    by chance you are not moving the head by hand are you when you align the vinyl.

    chris

  • Gavin MacMillan

    Member
    7 June 2007 at 07:44

    Right I had to do some acrobatics swinging from the rafters so I hope this works! All this is assuming you have the top cover off the machine.

    Power on while holding ‘base point’ & ‘sheet type’
    Select cart holder 6 using the < > keys, then press sheet type to enter adjustment mode.

    Keep pressing ‘power’ key to enter adjust mode. During adjust mode ‘power’ LED will blink and both ‘peice’ & ‘roll’ will be lit

    Close the cover and move the head carriage using < > so that the white gear comes to the centre of the cart holder [we always found a smidgen to the right was better] Press ‘sheet type’ to save settings.

    Open the front cover, then press ‘power’ to return to test mode

    Select cartridge exchange test. Selection can be done ‘sheet type’ key ‘peice’ LED blinks – cart exchange test / ‘roll’ LED blinks – cmyk sensing test.

    Put a ribbon in cart holder 1 and close cover – it will run through the pick up test. I needs to be accurate for at least 1full run (1-6)

  • ryanewen

    Member
    7 June 2007 at 12:38

    Excellent, all sorted.

    Next challenge is to work on print quality!

    Thanks for the help

    Ryan

  • Gavin MacMillan

    Member
    7 June 2007 at 12:55

    Did it work then? Brilliant! Was a bit confusing typing it, glad it helped

    G

  • Terry Furlong

    Member
    30 June 2007 at 17:50
    quote :

    Right I had to do some acrobatics swinging from the rafters so I hope this works! All this is assuming you have the top cover off the machine.

    Power on while holding ‘base point’ & ‘sheet type’
    Select cart holder 6 using the keys, then press sheet type to enter adjustment mode.

    Keep pressing ‘power’ key to enter adjust mode. During adjust mode ‘power’ LED will blink and both ‘peice’ & ‘roll’ will be lit

    Close the cover and move the head carriage using so that the white gear comes to the centre of the cart holder [we always found a smidgen to the right was better] Press ‘sheet type’ to save settings.

    Open the front cover, then press ‘power’ to return to test mode

    Select cartridge exchange test. Selection can be done ‘sheet type’ key ‘peice’ LED blinks – cart exchange test / ‘roll’ LED blinks – cmyk sensing test.

    Put a ribbon in cart holder 1 and close cover – it will run through the pick up test. I needs to be accurate for at least 1full run (1-6)

    I cant get this to work……

    Trying to get my pc-60 to print but as soon as i press print the colour and busy lights start flashing. It used to perform a self test but had white gaps in it. Now it wont do anything.

    Thought id give the head alignment a try but i must be doing it wrong????

    I power up holding the base point and sheet type keys then select cart 6 then press sheet type and nothing happens. If i press the power key, the machine switches off. Also reading through the instructions, even if i could get further on, how would i select cartridge exchange test when i haven’t got a digital display?

    Any chance of a head alignment test for dummies?

    cheers…..

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    30 June 2007 at 18:19
    quote :

    Trying to get my pc-60 to print but as soon as i press print the colour and busy lights start flashing

    if a colour light is flashing means it does not have the colour cart that it requires or its come to the end of the tape.

    chris

  • Gavin MacMillan

    Member
    1 July 2007 at 18:52

    I can’t use PM’s but if you PM me a fax number I’ll send you the info on head alignment.

    G

  • gumbs robert

    Member
    5 July 2007 at 15:27
    quote Gavin MacMillan:

    I can’t use PM’s but if you PM me a fax number I’ll send you the info on head alignment.

    G

    HI
    CAN U PLEASE SEND ME DOES INSTRUCTIONS PLEASE I GOT THAT PROBLEM ASLO OR SEND ME UR PHONE NUMBER
    THANKS IN ADVANCE

  • Gavin MacMillan

    Member
    5 July 2007 at 15:32

    No need to shout.

    I can’t use PM’s and neither can you. You can check the board rules and see if you can post a fax number… not sure if your allowed though. Also where are you? Not sure of the cost of international faxing, the boss may have something to say on the subject!

    G

  • gumbs robert

    Member
    5 July 2007 at 15:43
    quote Gavin MacMillan:

    No need to shout.

    I can’t use PM’s and neither can you. You can check the board rules and see if you can post a fax number… not sure if your allowed though. Also where are you? Not sure of the cost of international faxing, the boss may have something to say on the subject!

    G

    I AM IN THE CARRIBEAN ISLANDS ST MARTIN I DID THE STUFF U SAID TO DO BUT AFTER I SELECT THE CART HOLDER 6 NUTTING WORKS AFTER THAT
    PLEASE HELP
    THANKS

  • Gavin MacMillan

    Member
    5 July 2007 at 15:53

    I’m looking at the instructions and what I typed, it’s pretty accurate I’d say.

    Terry – how did you get on with the stuff I sent over? Can you help here with any differences as our pc-60 isn’t plugged in any more???

  • gumbs robert

    Member
    5 July 2007 at 16:12

    WHEN U SAY press sheet type to enter adjustment mode DO MEAN JUST PRESS OR HOLD IT FOR A FEW SECONDS ANDKeep pressing ‘power’ key to enter adjust mode DO U MEAN JUST PRESS OR HOLD WHEN I HOLD AND LET GO IT SHUTS DOWN

  • Gavin MacMillan

    Member
    5 July 2007 at 17:01

    I’m at home now, but it wasn’t clear on the instructions I have. Just try a few things out would be my advice. Hopefully Terry will pop back on and may be more help than me now he has a copy and has used it recently.

    G

  • gumbs robert

    Member
    5 July 2007 at 18:29
    quote Terry Furlong:

    quote :

    Right I had to do some acrobatics swinging from the rafters so I hope this works! All this is assuming you have the top cover off the machine.

    Power on while holding ‘base point’ & ‘sheet type’
    Select cart holder 6 using the keys, then press sheet type to enter adjustment mode.

    Keep pressing ‘power’ key to enter adjust mode. During adjust mode ‘power’ LED will blink and both ‘peice’ & ‘roll’ will be lit

    Close the cover and move the head carriage using so that the white gear comes to the centre of the cart holder [we always found a smidgen to the right was better] Press ‘sheet type’ to save settings.

    Open the front cover, then press ‘power’ to return to test mode

    Select cartridge exchange test. Selection can be done ‘sheet type’ key ‘peice’ LED blinks – cart exchange test / ‘roll’ LED blinks – cmyk sensing test.

    Put a ribbon in cart holder 1 and close cover – it will run through the pick up test. I needs to be accurate for at least 1full run (1-6)

    I cant get this to work……

    Trying to get my pc-60 to print but as soon as i press print the colour and busy lights start flashing. It used to perform a self test but had white gaps in it. Now it wont do anything.

    Thought id give the head alignment a try but i must be doing it wrong????

    I power up holding the base point and sheet type keys then select cart 6 then press sheet type and nothing happens. If i press the power key, the machine switches off. Also reading through the instructions, even if i could get further on, how would i select cartridge exchange test when i haven’t got a digital display?

    Any chance of a head alignment test for dummies?

    cheers…..

    did it work for you please let me know need help
    thanks

  • gumbs robert

    Member
    6 July 2007 at 10:46
    quote Gavin MacMillan:

    I’m at home now, but it wasn’t clear on the instructions I have. Just try a few things out would be my advice. Hopefully Terry will pop back on and may be more help than me now he has a copy and has used it recently.

    G

    HI GAVIN
    DID U FIND ANYTHING THAT CAN HELP ME PLEASE
    ROBERT

  • Gavin MacMillan

    Member
    6 July 2007 at 11:44

    I’ve taken pics of the sheets, but they are not very clear. I can post them in the file swap area but I think you need to be a member before you can look in there?

  • gumbs robert

    Member
    6 July 2007 at 15:43

    AM GOING TO TRY AND BE A MEMBER BUT AM IN THE CARRIBEAN SO I DONT KNOW IF MY CARD GOING TO WORK CAN T U E MAIL ME THOSE STUFF PLEASE

  • Gavin MacMillan

    Member
    6 July 2007 at 16:15

    I don’t think you are allowed to post up your email ad on here? not too sure though. Also I’m at home – will be back in the office Monday though.

    Sorry this is a pain, but I don’t really know either as I don’t have the machine set up to try it out.

    G

  • Terry Furlong

    Member
    6 July 2007 at 17:15

    Gavin, thanks for the info…..

    Haven’t had a chance to try it yet as been playing with a Xerox Duocolor 12.

    What i did do though is opened the lid and put a cartridge straight onto the head and it went along and put it onto were the carts sit no problem so i don’t think my head is out of line.

    I also took the head off and had a little play about with it.

    The roller on mine that rolls the ribbon onto the media is knackered so i need to replace it before i go any further.

    Ill still have a go at the head alignment soon as i get a chance. 😛

  • Gavin MacMillan

    Member
    6 July 2007 at 17:21

    Nice one Terry, any tips to get Gumps going? Anything in the info I sent that isn’t clear in the post? Like I say I’m lost with no machine to try it on.

    G

  • gumbs robert

    Member
    6 July 2007 at 18:03
    quote Chris Wool:

    quote :

    Trying to get my pc-60 to print but as soon as i press print the colour and busy lights start flashing

    if a colour light is flashing means it does not have the colour cart that it requires or its come to the end of the tape.

    chris

    chris
    can u help me

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    6 July 2007 at 20:00

    i will answer because you asked but i am not sure what you are trying to achieve.

    i have reread this thred still dont follow

    chris

  • gumbs robert

    Member
    7 July 2007 at 01:26

    am having the same problem as terry am trying to reset my pc 60
    OK when i put it to do a test print it starts then the busy and colour ligths start blinking i have four new cart in
    thanks in advance

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    7 July 2007 at 09:03

    Your machine is not seeing one of the colours required for the test print. You need to load each colour (i.e a C,M,Y and K) cartridge into the machine.

    If you have already done this then there must be a problem with one of the bar codes on one of the cartridges. Check that each has the correct bar code corresponding to the colour of ribbon contained within the cartridge and that the bar codes are legible.

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    7 July 2007 at 11:14

    thank you phill good reply

    chris

  • gumbs robert

    Member
    7 July 2007 at 12:12

    I CHANGED ALL FOUR CART AND STILL THE SAME RESULTS.
    BAR CODES ARE 35R 34 R 32 R AND 13 FOR THE YELLOW ALSO IT ONLY PRINTS YELLOW
    THANKS IN ADVANCE GUYS

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    7 July 2007 at 12:58

    13 yellow is good

    also need

    black 12
    magenta 14
    cyan 15

    when you close the cover and after it has set its self up the colour light will be on

    chris

  • gumbs robert

    Member
    7 July 2007 at 13:13

    SO THESE CART CANT WORK ?I HAVE A DOZEN NOW I SEE THEY ARE FOR THE PC 600 ANYBODY WANTS TO TRADE LOL

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    7 July 2007 at 13:25

    i have used 600 carts in the past by very carefully changing the code sticker if you are not sure then wait till you have some proper ones

    Chris

  • gumbs robert

    Member
    7 July 2007 at 13:34

    WILL GET SOME AND TRY
    THANKS A LOT CHRIS

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    7 July 2007 at 13:38
    quote :

    THANKS A LOT CHRIS

    and Phill

    ps

    please use lower case for typing as capitals say shouting

    chris

  • Terry Furlong

    Member
    7 July 2007 at 21:23

    Cheers fella’s the correct cartridge trick helped me to actually complete a test print. The carts i had in had all the wrong numbers on. When i put a correct set in it went through the test, didn’t actually print any good but its a small step in the right direction.

  • gumbs robert

    Member
    12 July 2007 at 00:24

    thanks guys that was it the correct cart am up an running thanks
    robert

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